Is the Union Pearson Express cushy enough to justify its $27 ticket price? What you’ll be shelling out for

96 thoughts on “Is the Union Pearson Express cushy enough to justify its $27 ticket price? What you’ll be shelling out for”

1. Thanks for the tour. Another thing to note (and, only a slight gain for those concerned about diesel emissions) is that the DMUs (diesel multiple units) will be powered by Tier IV rated engines. This is the highest air pollutant standard for diesel engines anywhere in the world and is truly impressive in terms of air pollutant emissions released compared to older engines (like those that GO uses, for example). It is set by the super progressive U.S. EPA.

   My issue with the UP Express is that it was 1) built on time and on budget, 2) is really only for tourists and the business elite (I know I’ll still be taking the good ol’ subway and 192 combo), and 3) It is the only RECENTLY completed Toronto “public” transit project. I put public in such sarcastic terms because I wonder how many Torontonians will actually use this new line. Meanwhile, those projects which will serve the general population of our city are consistently delayed, over budget and poorly built. Isn’t it clear what the priorities of our governments continue to be? We recently learned that the Spadina extension into York will be delayed. We also heard how the new streetcars we’ve been promised are delayed. I am fed up with this!

2. “A spokesperson says these Y-shaped columns are supposed to symbolize the “freedom and worry-free” feeling of arriving at Pearson”

   Do people really believe stuff like that?

3. $27.5 UP Fare + $3.00 Subway seems to be better then a 50$(+tip) cab/limousine ride to me

4. Just know this….the majority of US cities that have a direct train line from Downtown to their Airport – average price = $5 (NYC, Balt, Wash, Texas, Chi)

   Toronto one way price = $27

   Doesn’t make sense. Plus you need to add the $3 TTC fare to get to Union. For two people to get to YYZ it would cost $60.

   A taxi from Yonge and Bloor direct to Pearson – $50.00

   I’m still taking a taxi.

5. For the sake of answering the question… “Is the Union Pearson Express cushy enough to justify its $27 ticket price?”, I do not see how anybody can say it’s not – in the case of a single traveler.

   – First of all, a PRESTO card is relatively easy to obtain, which means that if you’ll be doing enough trips to the airport (or already have a PRESTO card), there’s no reason why you can’t benefit from the $19 fare, as opposed to the $27 fare

   – Looking at the alternatives, they would be to do one of two things…

   Take the airport bus (cheaper, yes, but susceptible to delays and traffic)

   Take a taxi (about $50 each way, still susceptible to delays and traffic)

   Both of these options are not risk-free with respect to time. You never know what might happen on a drive or over to the airport that may cause you to miss your flight.

   Additionally, in the case of the TTC bus, you are not guaranteed a seat, nor will you have space to put your luggage – advantages that the UP Express is able to offer.

   In neither the bus or the taxi is wifi or a table-top surface available – these things could well be a key consideration for travelers.

   – In the case of more than one person on the same trip, there is a case to be made for the taxi, in that it’s the same cost divided. Nevertheless, the time risk will still be there – and for that reason, I think there is a very good case to be made for the UP express.

6. Cuts down on emissions if taxis with one person in them have another option.

7. Sadly, yes. This demonstrates the extent to which people buy right into the whole touchy-feely pitch. It reflects poorly on evolution, that this kind of unevolved thinking still exists.

8. looks awesome

9. 15 bucks maybe, but 27 bucks? common that a ripoff

10. you must be poor.

11. It make sense if you are travelling by yourself…but the extra time carrying your luggage from track to track…rather than a direct line to Pearson…

    What happens if you are a family of 4…Taxi/limo is still the best way.

12. I assume the point of the express is to make Toronto a more attractive place to do business because it provides business travellers with a rapid transit between downtown and the airport. Even if the fare was less, I can’t imagine that Torontonians would trek to Union Station to catch a train to the airport and not just head their directly from their homes.

13. $27? No. $20? Yes. $10 with Presto, yes. $20 with Presto, no. Over priced, but only slightly.

14. You can afford $1,000 for an airline ticket but the UP Express fare is going to break the bank?

15. What? Its all sub-conscious. The Y shaped columns do subconsciously make one feel free and easy versus straight and rectangular columns. You’re not suppose to notice it right away or at all consciously, but subconsciously its there. Same with the wood on the ceiling.

16. You’d have to be nuts to want to take the TTC to union station with luggage.

17. You must be a stuck up f*ck. $27 is too much, $15 too little. 20 is good.

18. Can you prove that?
    I do believe that certain feelings are prompted by things noticed subconsciously, but the specific comments the “spokesperson” made just come across as trying to seem clever.

19. $20 is not “good”. If you travel around the world $20 is insane compared to what other cities charge for transit. Let alone $27 that travelers to our city (who won’t have the card) will have to shell out. If anyone has money, paying $27 to carry their own bags is beyond a rip off.

20. Anything can be proven friend

21. Or disproven. Look up its effects.

22. Well, you’re insisting that it is so, so I do believe that places the onus to “prove it” on you.

23. Extend the Crosstown Eglinton line to Pearson and the Wealthy bankers can have this line all to themselves.

24. this article fails to mention that a family of 5 only pays $55, which is a stellar deal.
    http://www.upexpress.com/en/information/information.aspx

25. Family’s of upto 5 pay 55 bucks total

    http://www.upexpress.com/en/information/information.aspx

26. Do people who work at the airport receive a discounted rate? It would only make sense.

27. Why? Do you get subsidies for travelling to work?

28. you still need to get to Union so add $15 to that.
    Limo service still wins

29. MagLev was the way to go. This is a joke. Diesel powered self propelled car technology has been around since the 50’s.

30. None of those cities you mention have direct rail from city-center to airport, except Baltimore. In NYC you get the Airtrain from JFK to Jamaica and then switch to subway or LIRR. LGA has no train link at all, neither subway nor LIRR. EWR to Penn Station costs $12.50, and takes 45 minutes from the terminal to Penn Sta without delays (which happen all the time), and Penn Station is not “downtown”. DC has subway to DCA, and no train at all to IAD (subway under construction). Chicago has subway, and Houston has no train links to either Bush or Hobby. Dallas has light rail to DFW and Love Field, at a cost of $2.50.

    The MARC train from BWI to Balto/Penn is $4.

    Perhaps the best comparisons are Hong Kong and London. The HK Airport Express costs C$16, and the Heathrow Express is C$41. So YYZ appears to be halfway between HK and Heathrow.

31. I am sorry but Toronto is just too expensive in comparison to other cities, this is just another example.

32. I am totally with VOR – when an architect creates visually and structurally sound work they take every aspect of the design into consideration. Any architect who will work on a project of this nature will be a TRUE MASTER of their craft. In plain english – Anyone who slaps wood and Y arches BETTER damn well have a reason for it if they want their name on it. So if you do not buy into what the spokesperson said… that’s fine, but just know that it’s someone’s work, and that someone would have put a ton of time thought and effort into it. It doesn’t need to be proved… it’s just common sense that certain design evoke certain emotions or feelings. Art/Science are ALWAYS interconnected.

33. Chicago has L train stations in both their airports that take you downtown for a few bucks.

34. if you live near the bottom of the horseshoe of the TTC and are traveling solo? sure. it makes sense.
    live outside the horseshoe or are traveling with a spouse and/or kids?
    zero sense.
    the Presto thing – clearly it’s a tax for out-of-towners or business travellers

35. Cambo, my understanding was that they do get a discount rate

36. A testament to the extent to which organized crime has its nose buried into Toronto. Make sure to price this so hight that two people traveling together would pay more than if they took a cab. It’ll go bankrupt in no time.

37. A testament to the extent to which organized crime has its nose buried into Toronto. Make sure to price this so high that two people traveling together would pay more than if they took a cab. It’ll go bankrupt in no time.

38. Fair. What would you recommend?

39. And i thought $20 was fair. Really, $5 in New York? Maybe cause infrastructure wise, they make us look like a village. But still, $27 seems like a huge rip now. And with 2+ people, its completely worthless. This was made primarily for the rich.

40. True, but some don’t have a choice.

41. For one person. More than 1? Idk

42. Or taxi van.

43. What about 3 people? 4?…

44. We are so Toronto. We claim we live in a world class city but when they try to bring something world class to the city, all we ever do is bitch and bitch and find fault before we say, YES! People – you all have OPTIONS – u either take the TTC, Taxi, Drive your car and park or take the airport express. You Choose and then you SHUT up and say- YES! Toronto has finally arrived. The only true comparison is the Heathrow Express and what a joy to get out of Heathrow. I would pay $60 for all the comfort it offers versus the tube and the crappy cabs from Heathrow.
    I think it goes to show some of the comments here are totally wacked and don’t even know the difference between a subway that goes form city to airport versus a train link why they feel the subway goes from Penn to EWR, which it does not!

45. Dude, not everyone is loaded with cash. This train seems to be built only for the rich and thats not fair to the rest of the city. They should lower the fare and make it more accessible to everybody and not just the wealthy. Don’t you think that would be better?

46. By rich, do you mean people who can afford plane tickets?

47. Sky train Vancouver as World War II is unfortunate. I thought that my country’s government steals. But now I understand the country canada thief. Canada is the third country in the world oil reserves and resources.Where is the oil money goes?Kuwait’s oil reserves and is the sixth country, but the government pays people for oil. they are Muslims and here…I am sorry that the people of Canada are very timid. In a canada city of 400 thousand people not luna park, but in my country there is a luna park in the city is 200 thousand two Luna Park. this is Ridiculous. If I could go back to my country, I came back and I was not a minute in Canada.I hope my country will be free from the colonies of West.I am a fighter against those human rights to live auction and steal.

48. $10-20 makes all the difference to some people, even those who can “afford plane tickets”.

49. Travelers care about cheap and fast. Luxury is saved for automobiles. Those overhead storage bins are going to slow down boarding and departing, and all the outlets and tray tables and luxury are going to be an expensive nuisance in regards to maintenance. Toronto is THE BEST AT: screwing up transportation/infrastructure/logistics.

50. You can take the picadilly line directly to heathrow for £5 from central london. There’s no alternative in toronto using ttc

51. I honestly think The city likes to brag on how expensive things are or can be. Just for me to get to Union to even catch the train would take me an hour (bus + train) (Scarborough) so i might as well just keep going west to catch that 192 lol

52. How can metrolink justify charging torontonians 27 dollars, when vacouver built a simialir express train linking the airport directly from a terminal all the way downtown for only ten dollars before the olympics? ( and may i add that it too has wireless and storage space for bulkier travel items) This doesnt make sense for any travel plans for two or more people where a taxi will be much cheaper.. this city needs to stop putting the interests of business ahead of that of taxpayers and commuters!

53. I’m sorry, but this is just a huge ripoff. They actually made a train that makes it seem like a better option to take a cab. And it is! I take cabs If my wife and I are going somewhere and we come from downtown. Why would anyone with 2 people or more spend the extra time and cost (TTC) to get to Union to THEN catch the train? It would roughly cost the same amount. Sorry, $60 for the cab, $54 non-presto UP + $6 TTC, and $39 presto + $6 TTC. So at it’s cheapest rate, yes it’s an entire $15 dollars LESS, but the hassle and time added by getting a street car, a subway and then the UP is just not worth it. Time = money and I will literally be almost at the airport in a cab before the damn streetcar even arrives at the stop (and it’ll probably be full). This is going to be Toronto’s Monorail. Watch.

54. Because they are so poor and destitute that they can afford to take an airline flight but not get a taxi or ttc to pearson?

55. In comparison to which other cities, exactly?

56. Why did they make them diesel?? Dont we have better options these days.. at least a dual renewal/fossil fuel system. Solar could have been included and in this day its a total design failure to completely ignore it.

57. Maybe, but you could also take the TTC directly to the airport with luggage for $3. The rocket to the airport has luggage racks, which helps. It’s been interesting to see the TTC add the 192 line to their subway maps, perhaps to try to compete with this new train? The TTC sucks generally, but overall, I’d much rather pay the $3 to get to Pearson to travel, especially since I’m on a budget. And yes Peter, just because someone bought a plane ticket does not necessarily mean they are wealthy.

58. Of course the $27 isn’t justified. It’s a damn rip-off.

59. the minute you start to compare our system with systems in cities such as Hong Kong, Tokyo, London, Paris, etc., is the minute you realize our public transportation system looks more like a joke than Rob Ford…

60. This is so great. I really don’t see why people are making a fuss about the price, in London the express is £21.50 Paddington to Heathrow that’s almost $40 CAD. Taking a cab/driving getting out of the downtown cores is a hassle – and in 10-20 years it will be even more of a hassle. If people find it too expensive take TTC/cab. It may not make sense to take for everyone – though, we do need this service. If the service doesn’t fit with everyone’s budget make different arrangements. One step closer to being aligned with a world class city!

61. I totally agree w Steve !! Paddington to Heathrow is a joy! So easy convenient and comfortable, unlike TTC and even sometimes a taxi if you are stuck in traffic. With exchange rate this train is almost $40 CAD – so UP pricing isn’t so out of whack. I appreciate, if you haven’t experienced Heathrow express it could be difficult to imagine this – it truly is so easy. I think the convenience and comfort has to be factored into the price of this service. It may not be affordable to absolutely everyone but it brings our city’s services to be more aligned with a world class city.

62. In the UK the Heathrow Express costs £26 (yes, almost $50CDN) for a 15 minute trip to the city center. So this sounds like a good deal to me! As a frequent travel TO Canada I’ve been waiting a long time for Canada to join to 21st century with regards to transportation.

63. No VOR! You have choices… most trains to airport are NOT built taking into consideration the citizen of the city it is in. It’s based on the tourist. Torontonians have choices – take the TTC, drive your car & pay Park & Fly or give it up! Any…YOU CHOOSE!!! Cheers…

64. Most have been talking about the cost. The time and hassle of using the system is more important to me. I live a block from the Spadina line, but still would not lug baggage to the station, ride the subway for twenty minutes, traverse Union station to find the train, wait for the train and then pend half hour to get to the airport. Oh yeah, plus the time to buy a ticket.

    Even if it costs $30 more I’d take a cab or if it’s still running, the GO bus from Yorkdale for around six bucks plus a TTC token. Cheaper and quicker . And who cares about carpeting and wi-fi for a half hour trip. This is not for the average Torontonian.

65. Population of the US – 318.9
    Population of Canada – 35.16
    Population numbers and the movement of volumes of people will influence the cost of almost ever single thing. The entire population of Canada could feasibly move through the system you speak of in NYC – in one year.

66. I would willingly pay that price to get directly to Pearson from Union Station. $27.00 given the alternatives is reasonable. For those bitching about the price – don’t take it. You clearly have a way to get there now – and won’t take this route – that is just fine. Stop whining, when suddenly you have more choices than before, simply be content with your current mode of transport. I suspect many visitors to Toronto – not residents will be only too pleased with this service.

67. What does that mean? There is no alternative in Toronto using TTC.
    How does that relate to the fact you can use the Piccadilly (it has two ‘c’ in it) Line for £5.00 to get you from Heathrow into Central London?

68. If you take the tube instead of heathrow express you can get to central London directly from the airport. If you choose not to take the UP, you will need to take a bus to Kipling and then switch to the subway.

69. I was talking to an Air Canada pilot about this a few months ago, and they, along with other airport staff, were asked what they thought the price should be. He said they had heard $25 and said that was too much.
    It’s true many other cities have a much more cost efficient method of getting downtown – San Francisco Bart is so cheap. The Heathrow Express has always been seen as a money grab – I’m a Brit so know this.
    Bottom line, I feel this price is high – for an individual business traveler it will work I think, but for leisure & families not so much.
    I think it comes down to – do they want it used more – in which case you have attractive prices. Or is it a money grab? Seems that way….

70. That’s what I thought. Do they seriously consider that a selling point? I couldn’t care less if it was x y or z.

71. Actually, I do get a discounted TTC pass (and a tax rebate), but if you want to reduce congestion on the TTC to the airport, and less traffic on the roads, make this line accessible to the people who have to get there every day for work.

72. That assumes that a substantial portion of airport employees live close enough to Union Station such that getting them on the train would have a material impact on traffic – a very flawed premise. I would venture to say its more likely many airport employees live closer to the airport, i.e. nowhere near Union station.

73. “The train was built for the rich” seems to be the common issue. It reminds me of the 407 in that regard. But, if the rich are willing to pay for it AND the fares plus economic benefit to the City make it so that the rest of the City isn’t subsidizing it, then it seems reasonable to me. What I’m most interested in is how busy it gets. If it is really busy, then I think it’s doing its job. It is taking strain off the roads, strain off other less expensive forms of transit and making it more efficient to do business in Toronto.

    By the way, I come from Montreal. There, we had the 747 bus which is 10 bucks each way but includes transfers throughout the system. Paying $19 for a much faster ride seems reasonable to me. (Interestingly, the Maglev in Shanghai is also $10 Canadian)

74. Heathrow Express is £26 one way.. Seems like a good deal

75. It costs under $6 with a Presto card or just over $6 to take the GO bus from Richmond Hill Centre station to the airport. Its a 20 minute ride that goes there each hour. Almost the entire trip is on the 407 so very few delays. My choice every time.

76. Don’t forget Japan who charges way more for their Narita and Haneda express trains. They’re $26-$55 depending on the speed of the express you desire and if you’d like to enjoy the roomier and quieter Green Car.

77. A Presto card *is* relatively easy to get but for most of us non-Go Transit users, we don’t already have a Presto and would have to also spend the $6 just to buy the thing just for the UP Express to save the ~$8, which is about $2 with the initial cost of the card.

    Other places with similiar reloadable cards are cheaper or just have a “deposit” for the card. Ugh to paying $6 to save on the UP Express when I don’t use Presto otherwise.

78. The TTC subway isn’t that crowded. I’ve taken 26″ luggage on the tube, Tokyo metro and on the train during rush hour in NYC. In those cities I would prefer to just cab it, but Toronto isn’t that busy and it’s not like you have to transfer multiple times and constantly navigate through a sea of people.

79. @Our416 – you sound like a shill for Metrolinx with your comment! All diesel is bad according to the WHO. Tier 4 diesel is just as bad and possibly could be worse because the size of the PM2.5, which is smaller, embeds in lungs and goes deeper into the body. Especially young bodies like children. With more than 76 schools beside the corridor, that should be more of a concern than anything else! The price is a travesty but it’s the diesel that is truly offensive and the province, for all their “announcements” has no intention to electrify by 2017 like they “promised”. More lies revealed today.

    Then you do an about turn and start making sense. This is not public transit but a pandering to the elite traveller with an expense account. Your and my $$ have paid for this, it’s not the P3 that it started out to be with SNC Lavalin, who ended up walking away in 2010 from Diesel Dalton and his plans to get’er done in time for Pan Am. They figured out early enough, without having spent too much, that this was a white elephant and they would not make a dime. Hence all the public money frittered away on a line that runs 19.5 hrs a day with 140 trains which will most likely run empty. The emperor has no clothes and they can put all the lipstick they want on a pig – we know better. For more info… http://www.cleantrain.ca

80. you are aware that the TTC buses are diesel?

81. DavidG – some are and some are hybrids. And we are not talking about the TTC or buses, but a purposely built rail system. That if started when they first announced in 2003 and then again in 2005 and even after we created the Draft Terms of Reference in 2006 -07, could have been electrified in time for Pan Am. The govt took the easier and what they “think” is the cheaper route. Now the taxpayers are the big losers because this will have to be rebuilt using electric infrastructure and trains will have to be converted. And all the residents along the Corridor, over 300,000, will be breathing the PM2.5 for the next who knows how many years, creating an even bigger health crisis and strain on our system. So yes, I know buses are diesel. Good argument!

82. How exactly do you plan on getting to the station with your bags and avoid all the traffic which you’re worried enough about to take the UP in the first place? Unless your office/apt is in Union you’re sort of screwed

83. I live walking distance to the Dundas St W station that the UP will stop at, which makes it even cheaper (not sure exactly I think 15 or 16), and I already have a presto card. Would I take the UP? Nope, I can get to the airport in about 35 or 40 minutes using the 192 bus from kipling. It’s great, and costs $2.80 a person. That being said there’s a ton a business travellers coming in from the airport, and staying at fancy hotels close to union station. Why not use the train with free wifi and a place to plug in the laptop? I think that is its target market, and I think it will do well with those customers.

84. All work that was done on the Kitchener corridor (through which the UPX runs) and the infrastructure for the airport spur has been built to be ready for electrification, so no rebuild of that infrastructure required – all that is required is to complete changed required to older infrastructure and to complete the installation of the power supply infrastructure. The trains will have to have their drive systems switched from diesel to electric, which I understand will cost about $16 million for all the cars.

85. You seem to know a lot but not. If it was that easy going forward, then Mx wouldn’t have pushed the 2017 electrification date that had been published previously, to 2023. If you can answer that million dollar question, then you win the prize and the argument. Until then, this is a sham of a project and when the trains are consistently running empty, you’ll see the 140 trains per day go way down to cut back on operating costs because there is no profit running on air or in this case, lack of riders. Hopefully we won’t all choke to death waiting for electric trains….

86. Anyone who is smart with money knows that it’s not the big things that waste money the most, it’s the little things. Little things add up. People save on entertainment, new clothes, or yes, a taxi or express train to the airport, so that they can afford to go on trips without going into debt. It’s the same reason that many people don’t buy lunch every day even though they’re not “poor and destitute”. The little things add up.

87. Use Uber code UBERTORONTOFREERIDE to get $20 off your first ride. Just download the Uber app and enter the code. Valid anywhere in Canada.

88. I don’t know the whole story of pushing the date out to 2023, but the electrification program is for the whole GO rail system, not just the UPX. It appears from news articles in April that they are taking the approach of first upgrading lines to allow all-day two way service and then electrifying. (the electrification of the Kitchener line is about a $500 million project)

    If you are correct in your prediction that low ridership will lead to reduce UPX train frequency, then that should also reduce environmental concerns of the diesel engines (I don’t share the environmental concerns, we are surrounded by diesel vehicles, including the diesel hybrid buses – the incremental emissions from the UPX trains are minimal).

89. Reducing the frequency of trains will reduce the PM2.5 but that is not the point of the exercise. No ‘world class’ city has ever purposely built a diesel propulsion train service in the recent past — it’s all electric. Even New York City banned anything other than electric trains from going through their City since 1908! And no city has taken well over 10 years to accomplish electrifying their new build. Even in Vancouver, with all the grief over how their service was built and how many businesses it destroyed in the process, is electric. And runs on a fairly reasonable fare. It’s popular, well used and makes money. Considering that we had the same proponent as that one until they bailed (ever ask yourself why?), the expertise was there to do it. When you have been engaged in a project for over 10 years like our community has, then we can talk. We follow this issue very carefully… as do the other communities all along the Corridor in Toronto. Take a gander at our website which I already posted.

90. Interesting assertion that New York City banned anything other than electric trains since 1908 – since diesel trains still operate within the city. From Wikipedia, I understand there was a law banning STEAM locomotives from Manhattan after 1908, and there was a law requiring conversion of all rail lines to electric by 1923, but eventually also permitted diesel locomotives.

91. Yes, steam trains were banned because of the accident but also diesel from going through the city for the same reasons. Here is a great audio from a few years ago that might shed some light on the issue for you. Some things have changed a bit but the essence of what we are concerned with has not changed. I think you find it enlightening. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2tcxtj_mike-sullivan-of-the-clean-train-coalition-1-of-2_news

92. Westonite – The statement by the Clean Train coalition representative (in the video video clip you suggested I look at) that the UPX will turn the Georgetown corridor into a “polluted soup” is wrong and irresponsible. The extensive environmental studies for the UPX are clear that it will have a very limited and very acceptable environmental impact. Decisions are better when made based on study and science, not rhetoric (although rhetoric is much easier to come up with). With that comment from me, I will now let you have the last word in this thread.

93. We are already one of the more polluted corridors because of where we are. The line is bisected by 3 heavily congested highways: The Gardiner, the 401 and the 400. Adding an extra 140 diesel trains per day that are empty seems to be an awful waste. According the WHO, any diesel increase is unacceptable. Just because the EPA says Tier 4 diesel is ‘the standard’ and ‘more environmental’ doesn’t mean that we should lay down and accept diesel. There is no such thing as “clean diesel” – it’s an oxymoron. We have the capacity to do electric – we have an abundance of it – we give it away! And we have numerous ‘educated’ people on our side: the Chief Medical Officer of Toronto, doctors from Sick Kids who specialize in pediatric cancers including brain tumours and a group of transportation experts including one who has been a consultant on trains for over 30 years. Add 300,000 residents to that mix and I think you might find that people who live in and around the corridor and their and their children’s health should carry more weight in the conversation over someone who doesn’t know the issue inside and out. So thanks for the last word — much appreciated! Happy trails…

94. Well then these smart people who save on the little things can take the TTC to the airport for $3.

95. I rode the train yesterday and measured a top speed of 121km/h using my phone’s gps.

96. This post originally said that the UP Express would “never exceed” 90 kilometres per hour. In fact, 90 kilometres per hour is the line’s average speed, not its maximum. We’ve updated the post accordingly.

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