Four lies Rob Ford told within minutes of officially launching his mayoral campaign
Rob Ford’s 2014 mayoral campaign got off to an official start this morning, and things seem to be progressing quickly. It took the mayor just a few minutes to make good on his campaign promise to “continue doing what I’ve been doing”—he uttered some of his first falsehoods of 2014. Here they are, as reported by the Star, the Globe, the Post and the Sun.
1. He declared himself “the best mayor that this city has ever had.”
This isn’t a lie, exactly. It has more in common with lazy marketing—sort of like when a run-down restaurant has a sun-stained “best pizza in town” sign propped up in one of its windows.
2. He claimed that he has saved the city “a billion dollars.”
Rob Ford and his brother love repeating this, but, as the Star‘s Daniel Dale and others have pointed out, it just isn’t true. The billion-dollar claim is based on all kinds of creative math and flawed assumptions. The Ford administration’s actual savings over the past three years amount to hundreds of millions of dollars less.
3. He said he has the best attendance record on council.
In fact, his attendance record is merely so-so.
4. He claimed to have delivered “a lower tax increase than 2 per cent over four years.”
Last year’s property-tax increase was 2.5 per cent. Details!
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Rob Ford's 2014 mayoral campaign got off to an official start this morning, and things seem to be progressing quickly. It took the mayor just a few minutes to make good on his campaign promise to "continue doing what I’ve been doing"—he uttered some of his first falsehoods of 2014. Here they are, as reported by the Star, the Globe, the Post and the Sun.
1. He declared himself "the best mayor that this city has ever had."
This isn’t a lie, exactly. It has more in common with lazy marketing—sort of like when a run-down restaurant has a sun-stained "best pizza in town" sign propped up in one of its windows.
2. He claimed that he has saved the city "a billion dollars."
Rob Ford and his brother love repeating this, but, as the Star's Daniel Dale and others have pointed out, it just isn’t true. The billion-dollar claim is based on all kinds of creative math and flawed assumptions. The Ford administration’s actual savings over the past three years amount to hundreds of millions of dollars less.
3. He said he has the best attendance record on council.
In fact, his attendance record is merely so-so.
4. He claimed to have delivered "a lower tax increase than 2 per cent over four years."
Last year's property-tax increase was 2.5 per cent. Details!){kind=link}
(yawn)… isn’t he gone yet?
Glad to see some media like Toronto Life calling “bullsh1t” on politicians. Long overdue. Make sure you’ve got your back up story straight and then tell us. We need to know who the Pinocchios are in this election
Details indeed, Toronto Life. Last year’s (2013) residential tax increase was 2.0%, not the 2.5% claimed by the author. With 2011 / 2012 / 2013 / 2014 increases of 0% / 2.5% / 2.0% / 2.5% the mean, or average, over the four years is 1.75%. That’s less than 2%, so where’s the lie here?
More Krap from the lefty msm media party….serve them right if he actually gets re-elected. I suspect the media party will be on the witchhunt if he does get re-elected.
2% over four years would have amounted to less than 0.5% a year, no? With the numbers you gave, the increase over 4 years was of 7.16%.
Ford Nation is adorable.
In Ford Nation, facts and truth are lefty constructs.
ROTFL … twit. Yes, Toronto Life, bastion of $200 gala tickets and $5000 sofas and million dollar homes, such an emblem of anti-capitalist sentiment. Get real. Even the Sun is against Ford now! You children and your constant tinfoil-hat “lefty msm media party” refrain … join us back in the real world sometime, where math and facts actually count for something, eh? You and your buddies literally sound lately like you’re losing your marbles – you can’t even keep track of which papers/sites are which. Are the Post and Sun “lefty” now? You’re the ones with the enemies lists, and it was your mayor served with the libel notice … you know “witchhunts” better than most. In short: stuff it. You’ve completely lost the plot.
Q: How do you tell if Rob Ford is lying?
A: His lips are moving,
That would depend on whether you take the quoted figure as an annual increase, or sum of increases over the four year term. Convention when discussing tax property increases in my mind is that it’s an annual figure given that each year it is discussed and approved by Council, then communicated to and paid by property owners.
I was referring to 2012, but I can see how the wording would be confusing.
Rob Ford has cost the city hundreds of milions of dollars in teh short term and billions in the long term – a disaster at every turn.
Only a desperate partisan would tolerate an alcoholic, crack smoking mayor, buy his lies and pretend behaviour and it’s reflection on the city doesn’t matter.
I love how the only time Rob Ford actually gets to work early is when he wants to register for an election. Why did he need to be there at 8:15 for that? Could he not have just shown up at 11 like usual?
I think if you have to resort to semantics to try to show that ONE of the four things is NOT a lie, you’re having to try too hard to defend Ford. Put another right-winger in there if you want, but please, get a politician who takes the time to learn about issues before voting on them and who can be proud of his accomplishments as they are, without needing to embellish them to the point of turning them into utter lies.
People like 7th_son are terrified because they don’t understand how the world really works. They think someone like Rob Ford somehow “gets them”, and so they cling to him as some kind of life raft, against some kind of perceived threat from government. However, that threat is the construct of right-wing capitalists who need the poor and uneducated to keep quiet and keep working at their low-paying jobs, to keep the economy running for the middle and upper-classes. I have NO need for a social network, but I actually want there to be one. However, the Harpers and Fords have convinced the lower classes that the “elites” are out to steal their money, even though the poor are the ones that need the social programs, better public transit and welfare that the “bleeding heart” liberals would provide and the right-wing want to dismantle. Keep voting for Ford and Harper, you poor folks.. look at the slums of the US to see where you’re gonna end up. Those came from voting for Reagan and George W.
There are thousands of people in jail serving very long sentences, some life sentences, for doing less than what Rob Ford did with illegal drugs. What is the cost of having the face of Rob Ford representing Toronto and Canada on the world stage? PRICELESS.
So the first “lie” is admitted not to be a lie. The second lie is still a saving. The third one is a debate about comparisons. While comparing attendance to other councillors seems reasonable, a better comparison would be between him and other mayors, since the duties of a mayor are more comparable. ie oranges with oranges, or in this case mayor with other mayors. And the fourth one compares a one year increase with a claim of an overall 4 year increase. Again not comparing like with like. I don’t have an opinion either way, but if you must make claims, make them valid ones. After all, isn’t that what journalism ideally aims for and why it is important to have a press in the first place.
I’ve heard of Creative Writing but where did you go for your Creative Reading classes?
“a lower tax increase than 2% over four years” means 2% total, the bigger lie is he was ELECTED with a MANDATE to DECREASE PROPERTY TAXES and ELIMINATE the Toronto Land Transfer Tax, EPIC FAIL!!!!!! He actually raised property taxes a total of over 7% from when he was given that mandate and hasn’t touched the LTT.
You clearly have an opinion, because you’re defending Ford here. Why? The first lie is a lie in the minds of 90% of the city – the ones who DIDN’T vote for Ford in the last election (or didn’t vote at all). And it is an insult to some of the great mayors of this city that didn’t lie, cheat and commit crimes while in office. The second statement is an utter LIE – Ford has NOT saved the city a billion dollars. David Miller saved MORE than Ford did when you use Ford’s calculation methods on his fiscal record. The third statement is an utter LIE. Ford didn’t say “I work harder than other mayors”, he said “I have the best attendance record on council”. That is a lie. The fourth statement is a lie as well – unless you help Ford out by adding the word “averaged” between “percent” and “over”,
Really? Why are you still behind this guy? Because he is (supposedly) fiscally responsible? Can’t you find a candidate who is fiscally responsible who doesn’t have a cavalier attitude towards hard drugs?
I agree with Jay Moeller. And on top of that, find a fiscally responsible politician who doesn’t have a cavalier attitude towards hard drugs.
Save vs. Spend, but what about the costs for the tripe???…its monetary…whether people believe it or not….you can bet there are staffers that have lawyers…money will surly be a result ending various litigation and all the rest of this asinine bullshit that’s gone on to be the “shit show” of late night and the hourly and daily comedic review of “what is the Toronto Mayor doing now”….now where is that being calculated? Embarrassment world wide has a cost. get fucking real people.
For goodness sakes, stop blaming the “lefties” for this “witch hunt!” The “lefties” weren’t smoking crack with the mayor. The “lefties” were not engaging with the criminal underworld. The “lefties” have not bullied council members. The “lefties” are not responsible for every stupid comment that sees the foot planted in Ford’s. The “lefties” did not skip work to coach football. Rob Ford did all of this to himself. Ford Nation, wake up! The mayor is simply taking advantage of your ignorance to further himself.
Be Thankful Toronto…we have the poster child for “Spend and Tax”….Lefty Mayor Naheed Nenshi who thinks a 5% tax hike per annum in Calgary is just fine…Calgary’s answer to David Miller.
Ya know, I like a good politician bashing as much as the next guy, but the headline “4 lies Rob Ford told…” is itself a lie, at least as much as your #1 is a lie. Actually, it is more of a lie than #1.
I don’t really get why the media feels compelled to embellish or lie in headlines, but I suppose its the same reason Rob Ford does it, to get attention.
I shake my head at the author of this article.
Just the response I would expect from a Left Wing Liberal Primadonna who probably surrounds himself with self congratulating Green Nutjobs that are only too happy to force Windfarms on their rural neighbors so they can pat themselves on the back and think about how wonderful they are.
Hey…I don’t live in Toronto(thanking my lucky stars for that) I just like watching the Media Circus from a distance….hoping Ford gets re-elected so the Toronto Red Star and the downtown Latte Sucking Liberals can choke on that slice of reality….I suspect that the voters in Toronto are smoking crack…what with the previous choice of Mayors…Lastman and Miller…
Regarding the first point, what do you mean “not exactly a lie” ? I’m not being facetious, I am genuinely wondering if he has been a good enough mayor to remotely warrant such a claim?? -inexperienced with #TOPoli
Hopefully shaking your head will help clear your brain fog…!
Well Toronto Life isn’t a newspaper, for starters.
There is one truth about Toronto mayors that can be seen throughout our history: a mayor that restrains property taxes inevitably causes erosion of our infrastructure. We are STILL paying for Mel Lastman’s austerity in broken water mains, slow emergency response, delayed transit improvements, The city tries to compensate for these financial challenges by increasing down-town density and bumping up the NUMBER for taxpayers, but without regular property tax increases the city will simply rust away.
Just the response I’d expect from a delusional righty Ford-Nation Nut: the written equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and yelling “LA LA LA, I CAN’T HEAR YOU” while parroting the tired lines about lattes, green energy and other stupid stereotypes. Good thing 8-year-olds like you aren’t allowed to vote.
There is one truth about Toronto mayors that can be seen throughout our history: a mayor that restrains property taxes inevitably causes erosion of our infrastructure. We are STILL paying for Mel Lastman’s austerity in broken water mains, slow emergency response, delayed transit improvements, The city tries to compensate for these financial challenges by increasing down-town density and bumping up the NUMBER of taxpayers, but without regular property tax increases the city will simply rust away.
Believe me, we’re thanking our lucky stars you don’t live here as well. Troll.
The average tax increase over his term in office was 1.75%.
I think you need to look in the mirror to detect who is actually lying.
You find me one other fiscally responsible canditate, and we’ll talk.
Did you just write that joke ?
WOW. What morons voted your completely sound logic down??
That makes absolute sense. Apparently not what people are interested in these days. *sigh*
What do you mean exactly?
Really? Life sentences for recreational drug use? Long sentence for getting drunk? Maybe you can elaborate on Wtf your talking about or else I’ll just have to assume you are clueless.
I don’t blame the “lefties” for anything somebody does in their personal life. I just blame them for pissing away millions or is it over a billion of our hard earned tax dollars P.s I just confirmed it is the latter of the abovementioned over a BILLION!! And for that I rightfully blame the “lefties”.
No, it’s an old joke. I adapted it to current needs.
As soon as I read Miller saved us more than Ford I stopped reading.
Tell enough lies to enough people who are uninformed, angry or desperate enough to believe them and you will win. Ask any dictator. What Toronto needs is an opposing candidate to decimate this freak.
Even 11:00 would have been unusually early for “Where’s the party?” Rob.
Amen.
Yes you are right what was I thinking I have to vote liberal for the best possible outcome. Yes it is the right-wing capitalists who keep us all working at McDonald’s so that we can all give you middle, upper class a better economy. Harper and Ford will no longer convince me that the liberals with their bleeding hearts will not do the best with my taxes I pay at my low-paying job while the liberals would provide me with the best possible social programs like ehealth, ornge, gas plants and food hampers I can not accept due to my dietary restrictions. Yes you are correct over a billion in social programs already provided. Wake up look at the slums of the U.S and that is sure to be where we end up whith the liberals and their “Social Programs”.
You are obviously clueless about the US justice and prison system. President Obama just pardoned 8 people in the US who had at least 15 year drug sentences, some had life terms. There are thousands of people in US jails for drug possession, many for marijuana possession. Rob Ford admitted to crack cocaine possession and use. Plus, nobody here said anything about “Long sentence for getting drunk”. That’s your BS excuse. We are clearly talking about illegal drug use.
I am assuming your opinion says that your leaders can break laws, consort with criminals, lie about it all to everyone and make a laughing stock of the city and make it an embarrassment on the world stage to be a Canadian and that is all OK if he saves you some money….that should really lay out a platform for the politicians of the world…
Who was “blaming the ‘lefties'”?
… People in North Korea go to jail forever for “badmouthing” government officials… what’s your point? Different country, different laws… and I don’t even like Rob Ford. You DO know Toronto is in Canada right?
Who are the ‘lefties’? And how are/were they “pissing away…over a billion…tax dollars”? Details please.
… You DO know Toronto is in Canada right?
I would argue that David Soknacki is actually the only fiscally responsible candidate on the ballot so far. Until the fall I would have included Karen Stintz but then she made that bizarre about-face on the Scarborough Subway. Not sure about Adam Giambrone but he hasn’t declared yet anyway.
What he is really saying..
1.I am an idiot
2.I love doing drugs
3. I love oral sex (munch munch)
4.I am bigger than Jesus
Are you saying that those four are not lies, or that there were more lies than four? I’m thinking the latter is more likely.
Fair enough
I have a hunch that if you sum the tax increases for all four years and divide by four, the *average* tax increase will be lower than 2 percent. It’s lousy rhetoric, but I suspect it’s actually true. Now, whether Ford actually did that, or whether those were actions taken by city council is a matter for legitimate dispute.
Also: Why are you still giving press to this guy? Wouldn’t it be better to just mark everything he says as “irrelevant” and move on. Unless you want to post a “Rob Ford” story every day and report something like “Rob Ford held a press conference that nobody attended.” or “Toronto Mayor did nothing relevant today.”
Less adaptation, more cut & paste.
Are you brain dead, margamoo? When did he admit to possession? If he had possession and law enforcement were aware of this, he would be in jail. Why are you comparing our judicial system to that of the United States? The fact of the matter is that none of his drug or alcohol use has impeded on his ability to be mayor of Toronto. Sure it has hurt his image, but it has also garnered a lot of worldwide attention for the city. You can not get life sentences for using marijuana. Where did you get your facts from? Possession and growth on a large scale is a punishable offence, yes. Can you please stop making facts up. You clearly have no idea, what you’re talking about and jumping on the “I hate Rob Ford” bandwagon. I’m almost certain that you didn’t even vote in the past election. Half the city did not.
Royson James did the calculation in the Star in on Nov. 30th, @dikki11. If Ford wants to boast about his savings, then it’s fair to use an apples-to-apples comparison method. For instance, the garbage strike under Miller actually resulted in a savings to the City of $174 million, by cutting the banking of sick days, and $492 million by moving waste collection to a user-fee system (incidentally, I haven’t seen any reductions here due to Ford’s contracting out to GFL). Further, Ford’s $3 billion Scarborough stubway is costing the City another $1 billion over what was already a better plan (LRT, longer route, twice as many people served).
How could have smoked crack, but not have been in possession of it? Was it floating past his face and he happened to inhale it as it went by? I think not. The lead singer of the Barenaked Ladies was just snorting cocaine in someone’s apartment in the US and he was arrested and charged. So – how is that different than Ford, except that one is coke and one is crack? They both “just did the drug”, neither was producing it or possessing huge amounts. But one has a criminal record now and one doesn’t.
Keep telling yourself that your best option is a right-winger who will “save you money”. Both left and right wing governments have their own spending agendas. Harpers just builds jails and buys fighter jets. Does that make you think he’s tough, so therefore he’s “like you”, and not a “pussy”? Ok, that may be true. But what are you gonna do when right wing economics eliminate jobs that poor uneducated people can do, and they get rid of unions, and they get rid of social programs. You might be saving $2,000 in tax a year on your shitty $30,000/year income, but you won’t be able to feed your family and if you lose your job, there won’t be any EI or welfare or disability. Now what are you gonna do? You were so busy being proud of not being an “educated elite” that you have no skills and no job. Well done. Being tough doesn’t feed the kids.
You basically proved my point. You and the other uneducated morons can’t be bothered to actually read anything, so you just listen to Rob Ford’s 3 second sound bites about “saving you money”. You stupidly believe he gives a sh*t about you because he has convinced you of that, even though he really just cares about having something to do in his meaningless life and being mayor is his last chance at doing anything worthwhile.
Forget US politics and their justice system, Rob Ford is one of Toronto’s largest drug Kingpins and also the face of our city, don’t talk shit about a man you know nothing about. He started from (close to) the bottom and now he’s here. He and his brother have expanded and taken over one of Toronto’s most lucrative industries and they use their business to help the impoverished and homeless. I think you need to learn about a great man and interesting leader before bashing what he’s done or the laws he has broken. Laws are meant to be broken, so long as those doing so are not caught and the individual doing so doesn’t see them as immoral.
The political and educational system in our country has been perfectly crafted to weed out the individuals who are unable to think for themselves and wish to rely on the social conditioning to live a “good and happy” life. Respect those who have created our developed world and go on living a life full of happiness where you don’t need to worry about where you might find usable drinking water, useful shelter, and necessary medical attention. If you want to bash our leaders for doing or dealing drugs, go move to Africa and see how well you fare. Otherwise, continue your easy life where the only thing you really have to worry about is when and how you will find love.
Don’t talk to me about feeding my kids in the same post of endorsing liberals between McGuinty and Wynne my kids is what I worry about and the massive debt that will be passed on to them debt brought on by the useless waste of taxpayer’s dollars. If that is what you choose to endorse as our bright economic future so be it but don’t think I give a damn.And those social programs you don’t want to pay for believe me you’ll keep paying and paying for them.
Toronto Life is the one doing the lying here.Rob Ford has been the best Toronto Mayor.He has saved Toronto a lot of money.I wouldn’t trust anything Daniel Dale says.The Mayors attendance has been a lot better then most.Get your facts straight Toronto Life………And the newspaper smear campaign continues.Suck it up Toronto life and grow up.Start acting in a professional manner instead of printing this sort of garbage……”ENOUGH SAID”
More like:
Q: How do you tell if Rob Ford is apologizing for something he lied about earlier?
A: His lips are moving,
wow you’re so cool sanwin. everyone looks up to you right now. #loser
Of course I have an opinion. I object to poor logic. I also refrain from ad hominem attacks. I do have an opinion about information. I like to have footnoted and properly substantiated information. I like context. Information without context is propaganda. You have an opinion, I like that.
To answer your incredibly stupid questions:
“When did he admit to possession?” Rob Ford admitted to the press on TV to what was reported in the video by Police Chief Bill Blair, that he was smoking crack cocaine. For him to smoke crack cocaine he must first possess it. He also admitted to crack cocaine use when questioned in chambers by city council members. How did you not see this on TV? Brain dead?
“The fact of the matter is that none of his drug or alcohol use has impeded on his ability to be mayor of Toronto.” Are you crazy? Have you forgotten that City Council voted unanimously to strip Rob Ford of most of his powers and passed them to Deputy Mayor Norm Kelly? Rob Ford currently remains Mayor mostly in name. Where have you been to not know this?
“Why are you comparing our judicial system to that of the United States?” The United States is Canada’s largest trading partner and how they view us is important in every way. Currently, they are laughing at us and in a very negative way because Rob Ford has become the new face of Canada. And these are not just late night comedians, as even the most respected liberal political commentators, such as Lawrence O’Donnell of MSNBC, who used to hold Canada very high as a model for America to emulate, are now making very negative comments about Canada. Rob Ford has brought shame upon us.
But it doesn’t end there. The second, and most important reason to compare us, Canada, to the US justice system is because our current Conservative Federal Government, under Stephen Harper, has been and continues to feed off the US justice system and has introduced more harsher drug laws in Canada that are based on the conservative drug laws in the United States. While America has been scaling back hard drug offence laws under Obama, Harper and the conservatives (of which Rob Ford says he is part of) are getting harder on drug crime and are getting their marching orders from the Tea Party neo-cons in the US. Please read the attached news articles below that clearly outlines what has been happening in Canada over the past few years. For example, the article says: “The Harper government remains adamant that mandatory, one-size-fits-all sentences are the best way to fight crime. It has indicated it is willing to spend an estimated $9-billion to imprison more Canadians.” $9 billion on minimum mandatory sentences. That money could have been used to build our subways instead of prisons.
How incredibly hypercritical and wasteful. The conservatives get tough on drug crimes while our conservative Mayor enjoys crack cocaine in a “drunken stupor”. What a lie.
In the photo with Rob Ford smoking illegal crack cocaine there are four people. One is dead in a murder crime being investigated. Two are under arrest in a sweeping drug investigation by Toronto Police and are awaiting trial. The fourth person is the Mayor, Rob Ford. And the only reason why he is not in jail is because he is rich and the Mayor. So while the conservatives get tough on Canadians for drug crimes, conservative politicians laugh at our laws and are the first ones to get in line for re-election after being striped of political powers by piers in City Council.
“You can not get life sentences for using marijuana.” How blind you are. Please read the attached news article that shows that there are many prisoners in the US serving life sentences for marijuana offences. One person is serving life without parole for possession of 32 grams of marijuana with intent to distribute. And another is serving life without parol for acting as a go-between in the sale of $10 of marijuana to an undercover officer.
These are the cold hard facts and our Canadian Prime Minister is influenced by US policies and is gradually introducing harder drug laws and minimum mandatory sentences in Canada. You better just hope that you don’t get busted and end up in one of Stephen Harper’s new prisons.
So please take the time to carefully read the FACTS in the attached news articles and think very carefully the next time you step into the voting booth to choose our next Mayor and our next Prime Minister.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/colin-kenny/canada-drug-laws-outdated_b_3816620.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/obama-pardon-crack-cocaine_n_4474876.html
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/111813-lwop-complete-report.pdf
Yes and our Canadian Prime Minister has been introducing harder drug crime laws in Canada that are based on minimum mandatory sentences previously used in The United States. While the US under Obama is rolling back on its tough drug laws introduced by US conservatives, Canada under Harper is getting tougher drug laws that Harper has learned from US conservatives. What happens elsewhere in the world influences what happens here at home.
Canadian conservatives get tough on drug crimes while our conservative Mayor enjoys crack cocaine in a “drunken stupor”. Please read the attached news articles below and think carefully about how you vote for the next Mayor of Toronto and the next Prime Minister of Canada.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/colin-kenny/canada-drug-laws-outdated_b_3816620.html
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/111813-lwop-complete-report.pdf
Stop being lazy and read. What happens elsewhere in the world influences us here in Canada. Especially our conservative Prime Minister who is influenced by the neo-conservatives in the United States.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/colin-kenny/canada-drug-laws-outdated_b_3816620.html
https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/111813-lwop-complete-report.pdf
Very well said.
news flash toronto is NOT in the USA
First of all the term Possession in the legal sence is reserved for possetion with the intent of traficing (meening more than just a joint) if He has commited a crime and as you know the Police Chief would like nothing more than to Arrest and charge him He would already LONG time ago been charged. Second what the Council did in removing his powers was Illegal and He is going to get them back. and regardless of your Political views YOU AND EVERY CANADIAN should be ashamed of what the City of Toronto Council did when they made that vote as in doing so they stabbed Democracy in the back like cowards
Stop Talking about the fucking USA this is CANADA if you like it there so much go the FUCK there
OHH i get it you are an “LL”
Leftist Lemming
oh oh looks like someones looking to get in trouble ing the courts
do you know the difference in the votting records as pertaining to votes missed between Ford and Miller? Ford 14.8% missed Miller 41.*% so a football game here or there is pretty good in my mind
what was the first thing council did after the coup? re instated their budgets thats a start
News flash our political leaders, including our Prime Minister, are being influenced by conservative policies from the US.
As a news article from The Huffington Post says, “The Harper government remains adamant that mandatory, one-size-fits-all sentences are the best way to fight crime. It has indicated it is willing to spend an estimated $9-billion to imprison more Canadians.”
These are USA style prison sentences being introduced by our Canadian conservative government. Wake-up and read before you end up in a Canadian jail serving a long prison sentence.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/colin-kenny/canada-drug-laws-outdated_b_3816620.html
well while norm kelly was sunning in florida Ford was out in the city doing his job even tho the council whom most were no where to be seen were fighting him
why dont you run Fred
Did you ever hear oh that polititian in Toronto who got shitfaced drunk and was found outside in an ally naked wondering who this could be Non other than Saint Jack Layton
you sir are simply a LL Leftist Lemming so what you say meens little to those who count in the world I think you would have really loved Moscow in the 60s
Hey stupid. It is very obvious from my remarks that I do not like the drug law policies and prison sentences in the US and as a Canadian I also do not like our government here in Canada being influenced by those harsh drug policies in the US. If you would like to protect Canada and our way of life, then you should also like to remove this influence from our government.
Instead of using six year-old language and four letter words, you should put your efforts into speaking out against the Stephen Harper conservative government and the new mandatory minimum drug sentences he recently introduced to Canada.
Nothing intelligent to say except name calling. No facts. No examples or quotes to recite. No argument. Idiot.
Really who is David Soknacki? How would he be fiscally responsible? Who is Karen Stintz? What is a Scarborough Subway? Details please.
*means
My comment has less to do with political ‘rights/wrongs’ and more to do with moral ‘rights/wrongs’ (as I see it). Rob Ford has made mistakes, poor judgement and basically a public ass of himself. This man needs help. Not the kind of help he is currently getting (the kind that tries to sweep yet another blunder under a rug) but real help. Why do we need to ridicule him? (as well as others for sharing an opinion). Why is it that we cannot simply see, that regardless of how much good or harm his impact has had to the city (and perhaps the image of Canada – Bob and Doug McKenzie come to mind) he should get and needs help. I would rather he withdraws from running and get his life back under control, than read about his overdose in the Star.
Run for office
lol you are spewing lestist rags there why read it it is not worth the time because all comes from the same source ya bunch off freakin lemmings get som new material
pinko puke is all that comes out of those rags come up with another source and ill read it
he is still a lemming not an original thought in it’s mind
dig deap enuogh and you will find dirt on anyone right margoo i bet ya have done illicite drugs befor tisk tisk remember glass houses
Thing is Collin this isn’t journalism it is the lefist Lemming in his natural habitat
First those who didn’t vote their thoughts on this matter do NOT matter as ther forfieted their voice by NOT VOTING and second well you are trully off youur rocker comparing Miller to Fords fiscal records go back to Wonderland or Neverland or i dont know name a nice warm Communist nation you’ll like it there
did he factor in the NON action of miller in regards to the WHO and SARS i dont thinkso he did more damage to the Toronto T&T industrybuy not demanding a retraction to the travel advisory than ford could in a million years because um as you may or may not know travel to Toronto s up every month since this man has taken office that meens money in your pocket and mine
then why are they writing news? well it’s not really news because you have to have facts
Why not just post a link to Daniel Dale’s article? It has actual content and analysis.
This squib, by contrast contains the sort of vague interpretations, misinformation and the like which it pretends to dislike in the mayor. Why not just say you don’t like him and leave it at that? (I don’t like him either, but I dislike lazy and partisan journalists even less.)
Very well said.
Thanks for showing up to represent the uninformed. And judging from your spelling, I suspect you might be the one using illicit drugs.
Hi Alyx. I don’t understand how this is a response to anything I typed. Alcohol is legal, and nobody has been talking about nudity. I personally don’t consider alcohol a hard drug — certainly not at the level of crack cocaine. All I said was if fiscal responsibility is that important to Ford supporters, surely you can find a fiscally responsible candidate who doesn’t have a cavalier attitude towards hard drugs.
No argument. No intelligent thought from you Alyx. Just juvenile name calling that amounts to zero. How silly. YAWN.
Um, @Alyx, in case you forgot, Mel “Who’s the WHO” Lastman was mayor during SARS, not Miller. And I’m sure people aren’t rushing to Toronto because of Ford.
I find it kind of funny this bit that you are suggesting – “….but it has also garnered a lot of worldwide attention for the city.” He is the worst embarrassment and PR disaster the city has ever known. To support my point, friends who are expats working overseas and back for the holidays are embarrassed and won’t admit they are from Toronto and can’t explain to these people who anyone ever voted for this guy.
Rob Ford had his multimillion dollar business handed to him by his daddy. He was ALWAYS rich, he is a multimillionaire that has ALWAYS lived a life of luxury. Read some facts before you exemplify your ignorance.
Right you are Ken. Toronto is still in shock. And what’s even more shocking is Rob Ford’s desire to run again and cause us further shame and embarrassment, showing that he puts his political career before the needs of the people he was elected to serve.
Reply with your post to margamoo.
Soknacki and Stintz are two of the declared (but currently unregistered) candidates for Mayor in the 2014 election. “Scarborough Subway” refers to a class of proposal that would see the aging Scarborough RT replaced with a subway line, rather than with LRT as originally planned. For information about Soknacki see here: http://torontoist.com/2013/12/ned-flanders-for-mayor
I know “rural” better than you think, pal. Lived that life a long time, so stop guessing – you don’t know me. Your name-calling is also kiddie BS. This isn’t the schoolyard, so talk like an adult and stop trying to reduce everything to soundbites, t-shirt slogans, and tidy labels. Answer the questions, dude: are the Sun and Post “lefty”? Is the highly-monied thrust of Toronto Life really in opposition to current-day capitaism, or just your watered/dumbed down populist bumper-sticker “us vs. them” take on it? You responded here with a screed even less coherent and more unhinged than your last – please stop playing the damn role, answer the questions, and re-enter grown up civil discourse instead of indulging in your partisan tantrums. You accuse others of patting themselves on the back … but you do it here in spades, so much more rugged and truth-y and everyman than us! Who’s the self-congratulatory one? Your pose is fake, and it shows. Drop the act.
Dude, there’s a name for people who see politics and strong leaders as a weapon to punish their enemies. It isn’t a flattering one.
And your attitude of “those who count” is just SO democratic, dude. You sound like the exact kind of politburo enemies-list elitist you think you oppose. You very obviously favour oligarchy over democracy if you want to rank citizens like you just did here. Time for a long look in the mirror – you are not who you think you are.
The only lemmings here are those repeating the same tired bumper-sticker cheeseball phrases over and over again (read: you). You also don’t seem to be able to explain why Toronto Life is borderline-socialist when it’s also the home of million-plus dollar homes and four-figure end tables. Please let us know how your claims make any sense.
Uh, back it up here – are you arguing that there should be no air ambulance support in Ontario? If not, you better qualify ornge as being a management debacle and not an undesirable “social program” (which it isn’t) on its face. You should also be careful where you point your troll-stick, because ornge benefits rural people (us “latte urban etc. etc.” people you hate because you like hating people are close enough to hospitals to NOT NEED air ambulances – do the math, son). I would also like to know how ehealth is a “social program” when it’s just an electronic way of handling the same damn records your current health care system handles. In short: do you even think through, for one second, these tidy hot-button soundbites before you blurt them out? Or are you just trying to score truth-y points? You’re talking about issues that aren’t even in Harper or Ford’s jurisdictions, dude!
Dude, he’s barely personally responsible (which, last time i checked, is basically a CORE conservative value, so what gives). Most of his “fiscal” image is also just that – posturing and window dressing to snow voters. Tolerating any ridiculousness in favour of that image doesn’t make you principled, it makes you a partisan.
Our “bright economic future” depends on infrastructure most of your ilk are wholly unaware of, take for granted, and have no concept of how expensive it is to maintain. Your fixation on “social programs” is frankly evidence of this. If you think Wynne is the biggest problem this country has, man, I don’t think there’s anything that anyone can do for you.
If you think the choice is between Rob Ford’s barely functioning life and “Communism”, you need professional help.
Exactly – and any economic hope for TO requires a solid infrastructure, but it’s the first thing the me-me-me populists living in a bubble ignore, despite ours being crazy flimsy and crumbling. Infrastructure is the front line for a city’s people, markets, offices, transport – everything that makes what we value happen once you get past a certain level of population density. But how quickly that’s forgotten because so-and-so got a tax cut and I want one too (or worse: I hate group “x” and want to elect a leader that will overtly punish them).
Recent history suggests your much-loved populist right is worse: “Spend and Spend”, meaning meagre to non-existent real world cuts to what goes out the door, except because they have to pander to people like you for votes, they neglect the revenue streams to pay for it. Yet you prefer it, because it sounds like something you want, even if it puts us all in a worse position.
Unless Layton bought illegal alcohol from gun-runners and hung out at their house, you’re kind of talking s–t here.
If you’re not already aware of what Harper’s been doing with the criminal justice system, you’re out of touch enough that I don’t think anyone should a) be listening to much of what you have to say and b) care much about why you vote for these people, since you seem to have no bloody idea what they do once in power.
Laws were “meant to be broken”? Dude, Rob Ford was a LAW AND ORDER CANDIDATE. I mean, FFS here … how much whitewashing and moving of goal posts are you people capable of? Unreal.
How do you “laws are meant to be broken” Ford Nation anarchists find a way to vote for strict-mandatory-minimums “tough on crime” Harper?
Dude, “get some new material” is not a line you’re in a position to be using around here. LOL.
Real capitalists are flipping out because of the investment Ford is jeopardizing with this nuttiness. It’s only non-players and partisans that think he’s the best thing since sliced bread. Even the serious king-maker Bay St. types had reservations about backing Ford a second time, and that’s BEFORE all the crack and gangs stuff came out.
Ford’s spending almost all of the same money, dude. Stop pretending the guy came in, and spending halved, LOL. Some of his dream programs were also more “lefty” than the “lefties” wanted, too (i.e., lots of CCTV downtown, how “small government”).
“Coup” LOLOLOLOL … get over yourself. All Ford had to do to avoid this was show up, do his job, and not let his entire personal life turn into a trainwreck. But he couldn’t do that. He wasn’t capable.
The Star has had it out for Mayor Ford since he was elected.
If he has a “merely so-so attendance record, and it’s the best on council… just how bad is the attendance record of others on council?
He did save the city hundreds of millions of dollars.
He sure has a way of putting Toronto on the map. Lol
Many others big cities around the world have , or have had elected officials involved in scandals . But… none have handled it quite like Rob Ford.
I hope he gets re-elected.
I found he did a good job during the Ice Storm that hit his city, and spoke on the air like a pro.
Toronto USA?? Not the last time I checked.
When you reply to me pay attention to what I write there is a big difference between spending and pissing it away, as in the latter goes in the trash.
Ya your right he only paid for the services of of an Asian girl who was trafficked to Canada and forced to work as a sex slave no use in comparing that to having drinks.
Further proof your an idiot pave the roads and highways in gold, without prosperous businessi.e corporate,industrial, retail there is no bright economic future for this province and pay attention to how many companies have closed plants in Ontario recently. I don’t think Wynne and McGuinty before her are the biggest problem of this province I know it.
What I think and if you can’t understand don’t ask me again this is the last time cause I’ll just assume you are slow so very simply I am saying screw the liberals and all their financial devastation they have caused this province by the sheer waste of tax dollars waste refers to money flushed we have nothing to show for it. I work hard for my money when the liberals waste what they get from me I have no use for them. And I’m sure anyone with half a brain would agree.
Kelly wasn’t sunning in Florida. He did a 24-hour visit to a sick sister and kept in touch with Toronto officials throughout that time. Ford attended few meetings, but went out to housing complexes to say he was sorry and hand out his election fridge-magnets!
*sense, *possession, *trafficking, *meaning, *committed, *have been
It’s difficult to believe you know what the legality of the situation is when you don’t spell “meaning” correctly. Just saying.
Without ways for people to actually get to move goods and get to work, those great plants and offices start looking pretty dire. You complain about spending, but this is where a lot of it goes – yet you show above how little it registers for you, and your ilk has done SO much to set back sound planning and scare off the best talent in this field. But bonus points for “your an idiot”. Well played!
You apparently can’t understand question marks. What is your actual stated position on air ambulance services in Ontario? You’re frothing from a state of rage at your perceived enemies so much that it’s blinding you to things like simple questions. That should be warning #1 that you’re in danger of becoming an unhinged partisan hatebag. Turn back before it’s too late!
SARS put Toronto on the map too. Doesn’t mean I want it back.
Sorry for the delay, I thought I’d responded to this earlier. David Soknacki is a candidate for mayor in 2014; see http://torontoist.com/2013/12/ned-flanders-for-mayor/ for an introduction. Karen Stintz is also a candidate and current chair of the TTC. The Scarborough Subway is an umbrella term for a group of proposals that would replace the end-of-life Scarborough RT with a subway extension rather than an LRT line as originally planned.
I have just realized that Rob and Doug resemble Fred and Barney. They’re just as stupid.
Watched plenty of Rob Ford videos, of him walking into a camera, being drug, and dictating at a fast food restaurant. The guy is hilarious…..LOL
and what exactly was wrong with NK being with his family on vacation. don’t get stupid now…Fords campaign is dead.
Don’t forget to vote when the time finally comes.
In purely practical terms, RoFo collects a salary of about $170,000 per year and is AWOL about 50% of the time. He seldom misses council meetings (only missed 14.8% of the votes, some very significant ones) or executive meetings, but he has been absent from a great many official engagements. After each scandal, he puts in a few solid days, then lapses back to old habits. Sound familiar?