Rohinie Bisesar had an MBA, a network of Bay Street mentors and experience at one of the city’s most prestigious investment firms. Now she’s accused of a grisly stabbing

AT 8 A.M. on December 11, 2015, Rosemarie Junor walked through the doors of Medcan, the private medical clinic at York and Adelaide where she worked. As always, her makeup and nail polish were perfectly applied, her dark hair carefully styled. Junor was the youngest of four children born to immigrant parents—her father was Trinidadian, her mother Guyanese—and she was the family’s high achiever. She had started at Medcan in 2011 as a secretary; three years later, she was promoted to co-ordinator of an ultrasound test that screens for early signs of plaque buildup in the carotid artery, the only employee qualified to operate the machine. Junor cared deeply about her work. She had once sacrificed vacation days because she didn’t trust her replacement’s skills.

She had married Baldeo “Lenny” Persaud, a machinist at a Mississauga industrial manufacturing plant, five months earlier in an elaborate wedding featuring a Hindu ceremony for his family, a Catholic ceremony for hers, and a reception for 400 at a banquet hall near Highway 7 and Weston Road. Junor had three outfits—a red sari, a traditional white gown, and another formal dress for the reception, which Persaud had insisted on buying for her despite her protestations that it was too expensive. Junor and Persaud had recently purchased a four-bedroom detached house in Brampton, which they hoped to fill with children. Christmas was two weeks away, and Junor was looking forward to hosting 35 family members for their first Christmas in the new home. A meticulous planner, she had already wrapped the presents, decorated the house and bought the ingredients for a Caribbean-Canadian feast: turkey, garlic ham, curry and rum cake.

It was a slow day at the clinic. Just before noon, a woman came in with a two-month-old baby. Her childcare plans had fallen through. Junor happily volunteered to babysit, then spent the next 20 minutes taking care of the infant while the client met with her doctor. About an hour later, human resources sent out an all-staff email applauding Junor for tending to the baby. She typed out a reply-all thanks on her phone. Then, at 2:35 p.m., she took the elevator down to the Path system and walked a block southeast toward the Shoppers Drug Mart under the TD Bank Tower. As she arrived at the store, she got a phone call from a friend, who announced she’d just accepted a new job. Suddenly, as Junor was walking down an aisle telling her friend how excited she was for her, she was approached and stabbed in the chest with a knife, which pierced her heart. Over the phone, Junor’s friend heard her scream. Junor stumbled toward the pharmacy at the back of the store. “Help me,” she cried out. “I’ve been stabbed.” People flocked to her side. Meanwhile, security tapes show a petite woman in a business suit and lavender dress shirt walking calmly out of the store. A 911 call went out at 2:55 p.m. Paramedics rushed Junor to the hospital. Four days later, after a city-wide manhunt, the police arrested a woman who was well known on Bay Street.

TERROR UNDERGROUND: On December 11, police responded to a call at the Shoppers below the TD Bank Tower. Rosemarie Junor (right) had been stabbed, and a manhunt for Rohinie was soon underway (Image: Path by Daniel Neuhaus)

Rohinie Bisesar came to Toronto from Guyana in 1980, at age five. Her parents, Chandrabhan and Jasmattee, had arrived a few years earlier with their two other children—a boy, Narine, and a girl, Chandrawattee—and had left their youngest, Rohinie, in the care of a relative back in Guyana. Once they’d settled in and scraped together some savings, they bought a three-storey brick house near Woodbine and Danforth, and Rohinie came to join the family shortly thereafter. A second boy, Mahesh, was soon born. In the mid-’80s, the Bisesars opened Sandra’s and Chico’s, a small clothing store on the Danforth a few blocks from their home that’s now sandwiched between a storefront law office and a Chinese restaurant. They were hard-working—both had part-time jobs in addition to running the store—and prioritized education. Their neighbour of 42 years, Francesco Dilorenzo, says they were perfect neighbours: “They’re very good people, beautiful people. A good family, very smart kids, all of them.”

Rohinie attended Monarch Park Collegiate, near Coxwell and Danforth. In her Grade 13 class photo, she’s smiling brightly, her long, wavy hair loose, bangs brushed to the side. In her graduation photo, taken a few months later, she’s cradling a bouquet of red roses, her face beaming, her black gown hanging off her tiny frame. But she is nowhere else in the yearbook—absent from photos of clubs and sports teams, or shots of kids on campus. She apparently had little time for after-school fun. Like her siblings, she was expected to work in the family store in her free time.

According to an ex-boyfriend of Rohinie’s, life at home was tightly controlled, and she grew increasingly resentful of her parents, especially her father, a devout Hindu with a conservative parenting style. The ex, whom I’ll call Geoffrey, agreed to be interviewed on the condition of anonymity. He says Rohinie told him she ran away from home when she was in her early teens. Two days later, a truck driver picked her up and brought her to the police. Some time after that, her father, fed up with her behaviour, took her to a Hindu healer for what he considered a cleansing ritual. Rohinie was made to remove her clothes in front of her father and have chicken blood poured on her.

After graduating from Monarch Park in 1993, Rohinie attended U of T Scarborough, studying sciences, while living at home. In the last year of her degree, she landed an internship at the Consumer Health Organization of Canada, a Toronto-based non-profit that focuses on holistic and alternative health care. She graduated five months later and took a job as a technical writer in York University’s math department, and then another as a computer technician. Trueman MacHenry was a professor of math and statistics at York when he met Rohinie. She impressed him with her curiosity and ability to make herself indispensable.

“She saw what the available jobs were at York, and she immediately trained herself to do them,” says MacHenry. “When she needed to know programming, for example, she learned it, all on her own. She was a very good problem solver.”

For eight years, Rohinie performed various roles at York, including stints as a technical writer, manager of the math department web page and general computing support provider, all while completing her Bachelor of Administrative Studies in 2004 and, in June 2007, her MBA. Throughout, she lived at home, where she felt increasingly suffocated. Her father disapproved of her wearing makeup, despite the fact that she was by this point in her late 20s. According to Geoffrey, Rohinie’s mother had access to her bank account and made regular withdrawals.

At age 28, Rohinie moved out, which shocked her parents, who, according to Geoffrey, believed a woman shouldn’t leave home before marriage. She moved to an apartment near York that she shared with a female roommate, a decision Geoffrey says prompted her father to ask Rohinie if she was a lesbian.

With her MBA and a strong academic record, Rohinie was following closely in the footsteps of her older sister, Chandra, a chartered financial accountant and investment banking executive in New York City. After completing her MBA program in the spring of 2007, Rohinie was hired on a summer contract as a research analyst for Cronus Capital Markets, a now-defunct investment firm, where she created reports and performed research on aspects of the mining industry.

EARLY YEARS: Rohinie attended Monarch Park Collegiate and spent most of her free time working in the family store, Sandra’s and Chico’s, on the Danforth near Main. The Bisesars lived a few blocks away, in a three-storey house on a corner lot near Woodbine and Danforth (Images: House, Store by Daniel Neuhaus)

That fall, Geoffrey was driving with a friend on the York campus and they passed Rohinie on the sidewalk. When the friend catcalled her, she approached and reprimanded him, and Geoffrey joined her in the scolding. Intrigued, she exchanged information with Geoffrey, and they later connected on MSN Messenger. He was five years younger than Rohinie and trying to launch a career in the music business while juggling a handful of industry jobs. He lived at his mother’s house in Brampton. Eventually, after some online courtship, he asked her out. For their first date, they went for Thai food in the west end, then hit the dance club This Is London in the Entertainment District. A few months later, they went out again, and soon they were a couple.

By then, Rohinie had been hired as a research associate at Jennings Capital Inc., an investment firm that later merged with Mackie Research Capital. Her job was to support two analysts. One of them recalls her as a bright and capable MBA grad who initially seemed up to the demands of a cutthroat industry. In the financial world, where the unofficial motto is Work Hard; Work Hard, 100-hour weeks aren’t uncommon, especially at the bottom rungs.

“If you’re an associate,” her former boss told me, “it’s like being an intern. You are responsible for a lot of the grunt work. You’re working long hours, from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. or longer most days. It’s a rite of passage. Everyone goes through it.”

The stress of the job got to Rohinie. She began missing work, and she complained to Geoffrey about one of the analysts aggressively micromanaging her. Her boss saw it differently. “She was emotionally fragile. I think she was overwhelmed by the work and would just not show up. I don’t remember her being there for a full week at a time.” Rohinie worked weekends to try to catch up, but it was too late. Within four months, she was fired.

Still, she had impressed Geoffrey with her focus and drive, and he decided to give up music and pursue business. “She was this outgoing, strong, assertive woman,” he recalls. “She was a Type A personality. She helped to put me on a new path that benefitted me,” he recalls. “I picked one thing I was good at, business, and pushed at it until I excelled.” Geoffrey enrolled in York’s Bachelor of Administrative Studies program, the same commerce degree Rohinie had completed a couple of years earlier, and they moved into a small studio apartment on the York campus.

The plan was for Rohinie to earn enough to support them during Geoffrey’s studies. But the U.S. subprime mortgage crisis had struck, making it a bad time to be looking for a job. Rohinie networked tirelessly, and was hired to prepare a report for a corporate consulting firm called H. Sudan and Co. She finished it in roughly a week. But what Rohinie produced wasn’t what the company wanted. “She was really good technically, putting spreadsheets together,” says her supervisor, “but the insight into what the numbers meant wasn’t there. We parted ways, and that was that.”

Over the next two years, Rohinie continued to apply for jobs, with limited success. But Geoffrey didn’t blame her—few firms were hiring at the time. Plus, he had no reason to doubt her skill set. She had a solid academic record, and his decision to enter business school—on her advice—was working out well. He was in the top five per cent of his class and feeling better about himself than he had in a long time. Rohinie joined the networking associations Women in Capital Markets, the Economic Club of Canada and the Financial Markets Association of Canada, and pushed for coffee dates with the people she met through them. A mentor from those days recalls that Rohinie was persistent, but to no avail.

Rohinie and Geoffrey began to slide into debt. The more dismal the job prospects, however, the more determined Rohinie became. She shunned hobbies and seldom saw the few friends she had. She read the news and pored over financial data, often staying up late into the night.

In April 2010, her tenacity paid off. The mining sector was heating up, and Rohinie found a job as a research associate at GMP Securities, a respected investment firm at King and York that specializes in commodities and mining stocks. She was one of four associates working under a mining analyst. Rohinie wanted to move downtown so she wouldn’t have to commute from York. Though Geoffrey was only halfway through his degree, she was the main breadwinner, and he agreed. A month after she started at GMP, they moved into a 450-square-foot apartment at Yonge and King.

She woke daily at 5 a.m., showered, made a cup of instant coffee, then blow-dried her hair straight and applied makeup. At 6 a.m. Geoffrey would wake and walk her to work through the Path. It was their time together. She’d start work at 6:30 a.m. and often return home after 10 p.m. They lived frugally, splurging at most once a month on a date night—usually burgers at Moxie’s. Rohinie didn’t like to go clubbing or to parties, and she spent almost nothing on material goods. “The clothes she wore at home looked like they were hand-me-downs from the 1980s,” says Geoffrey. Her favourite pants to wear at home were faded green pyjama bottoms with monkey faces on them.

Despite her long hours, Rohinie struggled at GMP. Geoffrey recalls her complaining about the three colleagues who shared her office, saying they acted “like immature cowboys” and distracted her with their loud conversations. As a research associate, she was doing similar work to her job at Jennings, effectively at the bottom of the GMP food chain. Yet a former co-worker says she once criticized her direct superior’s job performance in front of her colleagues. “She implied that she could have done better than him, though she wasn’t very good at her job,” says the co-worker. “She was junior. She was stubborn. She wouldn’t take guidance or advice from anybody. And she was ambitious. I think she wanted her analyst’s job. I think that’s why she was so critical of him.”

Rohinie became suspicious of her colleagues. At home, she complained to Geoffrey that she’d been asked to sign documents for insurance coverage related to a work trip, but her employer hadn’t given her adequate time to read them. She told Geoffrey that her colleagues were plotting against her, and the couple went shopping online for a key chain spy camera so she could keep tabs on her computer and other belongings when she was away from her desk. Geoffrey thought her suspicions were odd, but Rohinie eventually dropped the idea, and they soon forgot about it.

Seven months after she started at GMP, Rohinie was fired. A colleague from that time simply says she was a “poor fit for the role.” She returned to her home computer, reading the news, combing through the latest market developments and looking for jobs, often from morning until night. She attempted the exam that would qualify her to become a chartered financial analyst, but failed five or six times. On her resumé, the designation is listed as “on hold.”

She would sometimes ask Geoffrey to fill out applications for jobs in investment banking in her name while she scoured the Internet for other opportunities. Geoffrey noticed that at least part of the problem was that she applied for jobs for which she was unsuited. “Rohinie wouldn’t even look at a lower-level job. She didn’t have a realistic view of how she fit into the bigger picture,” he says. When he’d explain as much, she’d accuse him of hindering her job search. When it wasn’t Geoffrey’s fault, it was her former bosses’: as Geoffrey recalls it, Rohinie seemed convinced that her former bosses at GMP were working to prevent her from getting a new job, since it would make them look stupid if she was successful after they’d let her go.

By the spring of 2012, Rohinie had been unemployed for 18 months. “Our condo looked like a hoarder’s basement,” recalls Geoffrey. There were piles of books, clothes and papers everywhere, fruit peels littering the counter for weeks at a time. When Geoffrey tried to clean up, Rohinie became upset. She said it distracted her from the job search.

Geoffrey went to Home Depot to buy lumber and built an enclosed workspace—a cubicle within the apartment. It was his attempt to provide the isolation Rohinie craved. Around this time, Rohinie began asking Geoffrey if it was possible to control someone’s thoughts with nanotechnology; whose thoughts, she didn’t say.

Geoffrey tried to reason with Rohinie, explaining her faulty logic, but she wasn’t listening. Rohinie had accumulated $50,000 to $60,000 in debt, much of it on her credit cards. She and Geoffrey moved funds from one credit card to the next to pay rent. Later that summer, she was hired on a contract by a small Toronto investment firm to prepare a financial model and a report on a pharmaceutical property. She toiled all weekend, then asked Geoffrey, who by then had been hired by a major Canadian bank, to review her work.

“She had done the foundation—a financial model in a spreadsheet format. Her numbers might have been adding up, but I had no idea what was what. It made no sense,” says Geoffrey. “I asked her to walk me through it, and she said she didn’t have time to explain it. Then she submitted it. I told her I would have been embarrassed to submit it. I became convinced she was in way over her head.” Her behaviour reminded him of Russell Crowe’s character in A Beautiful Mind—Rohinie was living in her own version of reality. He couldn’t reach her, so he retreated emotionally. He stopped trusting her and began avoiding interactions with her. “I would wake up, shower and leave for work as soon as I could. I just wanted to leave and let Rohinie do her thing.”

Geoffrey spent Mother’s Day at his mom’s place without Rohinie, and in her absence began to contemplate their relationship, which had been deteriorating by the day. When he returned to their apartment later that night, he told Rohinie he was leaving her. She became hysterical, screaming at him. He advised her to move out of the apartment, which they could barely afford together, and gave her his tax refund of $2,500. But she stayed for another six months, getting by on credit cards and lines of credit. In the fall of that year, Geoffrey helped Rohinie clean out the apartment and move back home with her parents.

HAPPIER TIMES: On a patio on the Danforth; having a coffee before work in the condo she and Geoffrey shared at King and Yonge; in the car with her boyfriend; at her brother’s wedding

At home, Rohinie was once again subject to her parents’ rules. She wasn’t given a key and had to obey a 10 p.m. curfew, at which time the doors were locked. At least once, she slept at a nearby Tim Hortons after attending a downtown networking event. The family enlisted Geoffrey to help convince Rohinie to seek medical help, but she wasn’t interested in a psych evaluation; instead, she wanted to go to couples counselling. After a few fruitless weeks, Geoffrey gave up.

In March 2014, the cops were called to the home. Rohinie had pushed her mother and damaged a door. Police admitted her to Toronto East General under the Mental Health Act, which permits involuntary hospitalization where there is reasonable evidence of mental illness and a threat of bodily harm to the person or others. Geoffrey visited her in the hospital. In the hall, he passed a young man, clearly disturbed, walking in circles, muttering to himself. Rohinie’s room was dingy, he says, with walls bearing scribbles from previous patients. Rohinie was happy to see him. She told him that doctors had diagnosed her with schizophrenia and prescribed medications including an anti-psychotic called olanzapine. Geoffrey immediately noticed its effect.

“I could talk to her like a normal person,” he says. She would listen and ask logical follow-up questions rather than rambling incoherently. She explained that she had been hearing voices as early as 2012, and that one of them was that of an old, white, male Bay Street executive. For Geoffrey, it all made sense. He finally understood what was going on all those years—the mania, the paranoia, the grandiose ambition. He lay down on the bed beside her, and they held hands. “It was an honest moment,” he says.

After she was discharged, Rohinie moved in with a cousin in Woodbridge, then an aunt near Danforth and Main, around the corner from her parents. She landed a contract position with a firm called Kingsdale Shareholder Services.

Things were looking better, but she hated her medication, which she said caused an unshakable drowsiness and mental fog, and stopped taking it. The Bisesar family had looked into options for having Rohinie forced into treatment, but such actions require evidence of imminent risk of serious harm to oneself or others. The incident at the Bisesar home was not enough.

In March 2015, a year after leaving the hospital, Rohinie sent the following email to a list of acquaintances:

“I have utilized all my funds pursuing my dream job and now need help to continue in that pursuit. I am trying a new approach to fund that pursuit. I am asking all my friends to contribute, if they can and wish to, denominations of $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50 or $100. I suggest such figures as I know the Royal Canadian Mint produces currencies in such denominations (hence it will be an easy contribution). Anything less than $1 might not allow me to achieve my goals in a timely fashion. My goal is simply to ensure I have basic necessities (food, water, shelter, clothing, and products for hygiene and beauty) while I continue to secure an appropriate role in an appropriate organization/firm/entity. Thank you kindly for considering providing help such that I can continue to pursue my ideal job. I look forward to hearing from you soon.”

In the fall of 2015, Rohinie moved out of her aunt’s house and began couch-surfing. She met one man, a Bay Street broker, at a bar in First Canadian Place. He hit on her, but she told him he wasn’t her type, that she preferred “tall guys of European descent.” Still, he offered up his couch—she slept there maybe six times—and told her what industry events to attend, covering her entry fees where required. The broker introduced her to potential clients at networking events, to whom she presented herself as an “investment advisor.” In these casual conversations, she would suggest that she could deliver outlandish returns on investments—300 per cent, for example, when 10 would be bullish. When the broker friend told her to tone it down, Rohinie would nod in agreement, but the next time he’d see her, she’d do it again. He says that there were several other Bay Streeters who helped her the way he did. She couldn’t afford food or rent, and was drowning in debt—he claims to have seen a credit card statement with a balance owing of $200,000.

Rohinie was occasionally seen at an upscale restaurant on Wellington Street. She was always in a jacket and skirt, makeup always done. She would stay for hours working on her computer until closing time, never placing an order. “She wasn’t a paying customer,” says a server at the restaurant. “She would take up a seat at a table or the bar and bring her own food—usually an apple or a granola bar. She wouldn’t even order a drink. She would tell us that if we had a better menu, we would attract more customers.” Sometimes Rohinie showed up with a man, recalls the server, but never the same one: “They looked like lonely guys probably trying to pick her up. They were older men who obviously didn’t know her.”

Day after day, she would sit for hours at the same high table at the Starbucks at Adelaide and Yonge, dressed in one of her suits—she had two, size 00—and a Brooks Brothers shirt, sipping hot water sprinkled with cinnamon. Sometimes she fell asleep in her chair. Sometimes she would approach patrons in line and hand out her business card, a generic black-and-white card reading “Rohinie Bisesar, MBA.”

She found her way into gyms in the Financial District. An employee at one says Rohinie would spend five to eight hours a day in the change room. “She’d wash and style her hair, do her makeup, groom her eyebrows. Sometimes she would talk to me; sometimes she wouldn’t. She spent a lot of time on her little tablet. I never saw her actually work out.”

On the afternoon of December 14, Rohinie’s broker friend was at a pub at Bay and King for happy hour. He hadn’t seen her in weeks. Then he glanced at the pub’s big-screen TV and froze. A photo of Rohinie appeared above the headline: “Stabbing at Shoppers Drug Mart. Suspect violent and dangerous.”

He emailed her and received a troubling message in response: “I need to speak to the top professionals in artificial intelligence, military and government. I need to get to the bottom of something that has been quite disruptive. I told you the truth. I am a good person if not the most good.” He wrote back that she was wanted for attempted murder and urged her to turn herself in. He told her to call his friend Calvin Barry, a former senior Crown attorney who today runs a bustling DUI practice.

A similarly bizarre email arrived at the National Post from Rohinie’s account. It read: “Something has been happening to me and this is not my normal self and I would like to know who and why this is happening. There is either a single person or more responsible and who and why would be nice to know…. I am sorry about the incidence…. I felt the need to be extreme to see if it would work. I would normally not do such a thing.”

A FAMILY IN GRIEF: Rosemarie’s brother, Richard, with a photo of his sister at her engagement party

Rosemarie Junor was taken to St. Michael’s Hospital, where she was placed on life support. Colleagues, friends and family filed through, visiting, praying, talking to her. Her husband, Lenny, never left her side. He stroked her hair, massaged her hands and feet, and talked with visitors about happier times.

“Lenny would just stare at her,” says a former colleague, who remembers Persaud quietly pleading, “I want her back. I want her back. I can’t go home. I want her back.” Junor’s condition deteriorated. Five days after the attack, the family agreed to the removal of life support.

Junor’s funeral was on December 22, at Our Lady of Fatima Shrine, the Scarborough church where she took her first communion. At a memorial service 40 days later, her aunt Philomena Singhroy delivered a prayer: “Lord, the questions we have are like the sands on the seashore, like the hairs on our head,” she said. “If only we can count them…. We can’t help but ask, why? Forgive our insistence, our confusion, even our anger. We believe that you are just. We are unable to comprehend this tragic death and how it expresses your love.”

Following Junor’s death, police upgraded the charges from attempted murder to second-degree. Then, on February 3, they upped them again, to first-degree murder, which means they believe the act was planned and deliberate. The family insists that neither Lenny nor Rosemarie had ever met Rohinie. Legally, however, premeditation doesn’t require a close relationship to the deceased, or evidence of long-term plotting. “It doesn’t have to be an elaborate plan,” Calvin Barry, Rohinie’s lawyer, told me. “Hypothetically, someone could wake up one morning and say, ‘Today I’m hearing voices and I’m going to do harm to someone.’ That could be enough.”

The trial will likely hinge on a central question—whether Rohinie can be considered responsible for her actions during the incident. Findings of not criminally responsible, when the accused is neither acquitted nor found guilty but is instead referred to a psychiatric facility, are rare in this country. The most notorious NCR verdict was in the case of Vince Li, who stabbed, beheaded and cannibalized a 22-year-old man named Timothy McLean aboard a Winnipeg-bound bus in 2008. During trial, Li’s lawyers argued successfully that he was in a state of psychosis at the time and believed he was hearing the voice of God telling him to kill McLean. He underwent a 30-day psych assessment and was sent to Selkirk Mental Health Centre, a high-security facility. (In February, the Manitoba Review Board granted him passes for unsupervised visits to Winnipeg after doctors deemed him at a low risk to reoffend.)

Rohinie was arrested after a four-day manhunt aided by tips from the public. She was remanded from College Park to Vanier Centre for Women in Milton, where she was put into maximum security, then transferred to the medical wing. As of March 30, no psychiatric assessment order had been made. This may be because Barry is waiting to enter a plea before having Rohinie assessed, which is often the procedure followed when a lawyer is considering an NCR defence. It may take years before there’s any resolution. Preliminary hearings aren’t likely to begin until early 2017.

In late January, I paid a visit to the Bisesars’ house just off the Danforth. Chandrabhan Bisesar, who wears glasses and looks to be in his mid-60s, opened the door. I introduced myself and asked if we could speak about his daughter. “I’m very sorry to refuse,” he said, and he began wheezing—the result of heart surgery in 2007 that damaged his trachea. Then he paused. “People need to know what happened. Because she was highly educated,” he added. (My subsequent requests to interview the parents went unanswered.)

I visited Vanier on a frigid day in February. It holds 127 inmates either awaiting trial or serving sentences of two years or less. Inside the front entrance was a waiting room with white metal chairs and a wall of mirrored glass. Behind it, a woman with short, greying hair took my name and ID, gave me a key to a locker where I was told to store my belongings—no pens, paper or phones allowed—and asked me to wait. A guard ushered me through a metal detector to a small desk with glass separating prisoner from visitor. Fluorescent lights hummed overhead. Rohinie was already seated, smiling. She was striking in her smallness, wearing a stained, oversized green sweatshirt and no makeup. Her hair was unruly, her cheeks marked with acne scars, her eyes glassy and ringed by dark circles. She picked up the phone. Her voice was barely audible over the crackle of static.

“Hello, how are you?” she said sweetly. I explained I was writing an article about her ordeal, which she said made her happy. “I need to manage my image,” she said. “But I can’t say too much because these lines might be monitored.” She added that she was unaware of what had been reported about her. Like her father, she was effusive in her politeness, apologizing repeatedly, demurely, that she couldn’t speak. “I really need approval first,” she said, “from my lawyer.” When I asked if there was anyone she would want me to talk to—family or friends who could help me understand her—she glanced at the floor, searching. “I’m a complex person,” she said. “Not a lot of people really know me.”

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131 thoughts on “Behind the murder that shocked Bay Street

  1. victims life is none of ur business. she didnt do anything to be recognized..from all we know. do u feel the junor type is a danger to u?

  2. Read the obituary then. I’m more interested in how this nut job killer came to live among us, what the signs were that we should have noticed, etc.

  3. Read the police reports then. This article gives Bisesar more sympathy than she’s due.

  4. Gotta love that Tiger Parenting style. If you want to read about your child in the ‘Crime’ section then be sure to treat them like a bratty 4 year old…even if they are well into their 20s. Rohinie reminds me of Jennifer Pan but is far more likely to be found NCR. Her parents must be so proud of their “handiwork”.

  5. Lock her up, throw away the key.
    I knew her. She was a mean manipulative person.

  6. Being a mean manipulative person is one thing, but having an untreated mental illness because she somehow slipped through the cracks is another thing. What Rohinie Bisesar did was despicable, tragic, and a sad example of the unpredictable nature of someone who has not received medical treatment for her illness. Am I sympathizing? You could say that, but only because this could have been prevented if she had someone (family, friends, a mentor) who could keep her on track and get her into a program to manage her illness. The parenting style she grew up with clearly indicates that her parents would not have accepted her this way (mainly due to lack of acceptance of such a complex illness, and lack of education and support), and probably would not have known what to do with her. Hence, her ending up this way. As far as her not being held criminally responsible for her actions, that’s very hard to prove. The incident would have to definitely be brought to trial because of its criminal nature, and I’m sure when it is, they will have professionals meticulously picking her apart, and picking apart the events that occurred prior and after the stabbing (i.e, her ‘voices’ told her to do it, yet she walked away, she went into hiding, etc). This is an extremely unusual event. It is not common. Think about how many mentally ill homeless people are out walking the PATH daily. How often do you hear of them stabbing someone? This is why it’s so complicated. She could very well be convicted and sent to jail, but she also needs and DESERVES to be rehabilitated, only because she did not ask to be mentally ill. Nobody does. As for the victims family? I can completely sympathize for the tremendous loss and can’t imagine the confusion, and anger and questions they have. Regardless of the underlying cause, justice will be served.

  7. Would you use the same argument for Paul Bernardo who is also clearly mentally ill and dangerous?

    Just because she was without the proper mental care it doesn’t mean we should all of a sudden be seeing Rohinie as a victim.
    If she was not caught how do you know she would not offend again? How do you know she hasn’t before?

    She is a criminal who knowingly ceased use of her medication because feeling tired was more inconvenient than having manic, violent and paranoid thoughts.

    Yes, I believe we as a society should be doing more to help with mental illness- that is an obvious given.

    But there comes a point when we need to hold people accountable for their actions.

    Make no doubt about it, these are the actions of a selfish and nasty person. Mentally ill or not, she deserves to be in jail.

    She made many other threats to people around her over a long period of time and even wrote that she was acting out of character. That wa enough to write an email but not to seek help??

    Would you be comfortable having her rehabilitated and back on the street?

    Do you believe that she would stay on her medication this time? Adjust the dosage when her body adjusts and it needs to be increased?

    Lets stop with the fairy tale and be realistic lady. We are talking about innocent, responsible people’s lives.

  8. Read the whole article and do some research. She had a lot of people around her urging her to get help and one by one she cut them out.

    Get your facts straight before you comment!!

    Stop defending this monster

  9. Yep, this whole ordeal sounds like Pan’s case, if not more on mental illness. Unfortunately, because mental illness is in the mix, it is really hard to tell if either she was being manipulative or her illness is to blame. Those messages definitely sounds deluded, if anything.

  10. very sad situation for both sides , mental illness is at the forefront of discussing police actions , and the responsibility
    of how we deal with people who are affected by it . One side is that everyone has free will , and should be held liable for their
    actions , but it is difficult to punish severely someone who has lost the ability to reason right from wrong .
    A young lady lost her life , i wish she would have survived / never encountered this person , the perpetrator has also
    in another way , lost her life , sad for both sides . What is the correct answer for this … so many questions .

  11. Just because someone doesn’t have cancer, heat disease, diabetes or something else you can “see” with your eyes, doesn’t mean they are not sick. Your comments prove there is still a huge stigma with mental illness. Mental health among minority women is a huge issue and health professionals in Ontario – and elsewhere are now just looking into this. Clearly, she was not/is not well. Instead of just branding her a cold hearted criminal, we need to rule out mental illness. I AM NOT sympathizing with her, but based on the research conducted by this author,it’s is apparent she is sick and as such, I wouldn’t be quick to call her a monster.

  12. Fascinating article. What a dark world this poor woman lives in, and what a shame it spilled over into an innocent family’s life. It seems our medical and legal systems are currently incapable of preventing this kind of disaster because of the emphasis on personal freedom over the good of the community.

  13. Both girls seem like they have it all, Man I should move to Downtown Toronto.. Fuck Scarborough, nobody makes it out here.

  14. I agree, bathing her naked in chicken blood sound traumatising and humiliating poor girl.

  15. There is likely much we don’t know. She may well have suppressed the memory of much trauma inflicted on her by her father. The stress of so much debt coupled with having to return, unemployed, to an abusive home probably sent her over the edge. I find it curious that she attacked someone close to her age who shared a similar ethnicity.

  16. Your comment is a great example of the stigma (and general ignorance) surrounding mental illness in our society.

    First of all, Paul Bernardo’s case is very different: he was diagnosed as a psychopath, which means he’s not qualified for the NCR defense. There are a number of structured tests out there that psychologists use to catch psychopaths like Paul Bernardo (who pretend to be “psychotic” to escape justice), and you’d be surprised by how accurate these tests can be in ferreting-out liars and malingerers. Bisesar will have to go through the assessment process to get an NCR defense (which may take years), so the court can determine whether she really was experiencing a psychotic episode and whether she can be rehabilitated.

    Second, even if she did get an NCR verdict, she would likely become an inpatient at CAMH — she’d be closely monitored, receiving therapy and support, until she’s deemed safe to be out in society. EVEN THEN, it’s not like the support would suddenly be cut off — she would remain an outpatient there and have to see a psychologist regularly.

    Third, she was experiencing a lot of paranoia and delusional thinking when she hit bottom. Those are common symptoms of schizophrenia, and can seriously deter someone from “seeking help”. If a chemical imbalance in your brain made you suspect that the world was out to get you — that you couldn’t even trust your own friends and family, much less a stranger to help you — you probably wouldn’t be inclined to ask for help.

    Finally, I find it strange that you asked this question: “Would you be comfortable having her rehabilitated and back on the street?”

    Uh, no shit? If she’s rehabilitated, it literally means that she no longer poses a threat to you — in which case the answer should most definitely be yes, unless you secretly get a sadistic kick out of keeping a “rehabilitated” individual locked away forever.

  17. Very in depth look into her life I like that . It shows a more humane side and I can better comprehend what was probably going through her head. Mental illness is a serious thing. And so is this system. This system puts a lot of pressure on people to maintain and is increasingly leaving people mentally insane. Amy so sad for both

  18. I’m not defending her. However I am pointing out that you at stigmatizing mental illness and you obviously lack ANY education about it whatsoever.

    It’s not uncommon for mentally ill people to be in denial, and furthermore it’s not uncommon for mentally ill people to forgo medical treatment because of side effects or because they feel “better”.

    The people she had around her gave up on her. If they took the time or understand what mental illness can do to someone they would have most likely been able to get proper treatment.

    Unless you understand the complexities of mental illness (And you clearly don’t) then don’t patronize me. You are only basing your feelings on heresay and your own personal feelings towards her.

    And furthermore, don’t make me sound like I’m not sympathizing with the victim.

    This article sheds background on Rohinie, therefore I am commenting on her.

  19. Is it just me but wasn’t there a hush hush story circulating that the accused had had a relationship with the victim’s husband?! From what I understand the media isn’t acknowledging the relationship in order to further perpetuate the whole it was a random attack byline. I am by no means ignoring the fact that a life was senselessly taken and she should be held responsible, but I also feel that it gives more context to the story. Clearly she was delusional and had a false sense of ego, also somewhat manic, but nowhere in that story did she ever exhibit violent behaviours, except for the pushing incident with her mother, which I can totally understand. Maybe there was a motive?! I dunno.. It is definitely tragic any way you read it.

  20. she was diagnosed, and given meds to treat schizophrenia. She made the choice to stop taking her medication because of side effects – which she is allowed to do, however the choices she makes while not taking her medication has resulted in a loss of an innocent life. She chose to not take her medication for selfish reasons, putting harm on not only herself but to others, and now an innocent person was stabbed to death for no reason because of the consequences of not taking her medication, which means she is criminally responsible because she made that selfish choice to stop the help she was given and now she must face the consequences. no sympathy for monsters.

  21. So because she was feeling foggy and couldn’t concentrate and went off her meds – that makes her selfish? Have you ever been on medication that was perhaps not the right dosage and the side effects were strong?

    Give your head a shake .

  22. I’m from and still live in Scarbs and make 100K. So does my partner. Don’t blame the city.. blame yourself first, then your parents for poor guidance on values and principles.

  23. Again.. the most important people gave up on her long time ago.. the Parents. Sorry.. other people can try as much as possible, but it won’t work.

  24. I work in a busy Toronto ER. The case exposes a huge problem with existing mental health laws. We know Schizophrenia to be an incurable, lifelong illness, and as doctors we can only hold someone when they are in danger of imminently harming themselves or others. That means serious action, as in confinement in a forensic unit or a court order forcing meds to be taken, only takes place when a member of the public is already hurt or killed. Many of these orders expire and once again we see serious harm done to themselves or people around them before they end up back in hospital. Basically anyone can stop their anti-psychotic meds, like Bisesar did, and action can only be taken when some poor, unlucky person is killed or injured. Many of these patients are housed in group homes that are in poorer neighbourhoods, so this burden falls disproportionately on the poor, who are also less likely to complain or get sympathetic press. It’s a big mess. There’s some legislation in the US that looks promising:

  25. Hmm… I posted this a couple hours ago but it disappeared. Just trying to shed some light on the subject to those who have never experienced this kind of thing, have no formal education in biology or animal behaviour, and have never been admitted to a psych hospital. I typed the last one out quickly… here is an edited version. Cannot explain how painful the past few years have been and how many have chosen to see me as aggressor rather than victim.

    “Just a suggestion for the author… There are many parts of the story that you don’t know for sure if they are true, and are nearly impossible for a fact checker to qualify (the boyfriend’s description of her upbringing, etc..) You should make it clear that those are suggested versions of events and that there is no way of knowing for sure if her dad dumped blood on her naked, etc. (It is written for the reader as if it is a factual, biological event.)

    Also, I was once committed to a psych hospital (after going to the hospital for asthma/anxiety attack) when I was in a rural, conservative part of Ontario that didn’t believe I was working on the Liberal Leadership campaign. They actually wrote in my file “believes she is going to be the next Justin Trudeau” or something like that… Anyways, a total extrapolation and distortion of the reality and everything they did while I was in there was to support there perception that because something I said seemed unlikely, I must be mentally ill, and their chosen treatment was warranted. My parents had to explain that I was indeed working a liberal leadership campaign and asked them to release me.

    By then they had gave me two medications (zoplicone and methylditrazmaprine) that knocked me unconscious on the floor of the hospital (they recorded my blood pressure at 60/30 but a nurse told me it had gone lower) and put me in segregation twice– once for 18 hours, both times without toilet paper.

    Eventually I felt so defeated by everyone’s determined efforts to make me believe I was psychotic that I started acting manic and paranoid just to mess with everyone, particularly the elderly psychiatrist (who, himself, had severe tremors) because it allowed me regain some power in my life and get some much needed rest and alone time. But solitude exacerbates depressive/obsessive paranoia, and it doesn’t take long before you are too afraid/defeated/depressed/disappointed(with the system/govt) to leave your home, and when you do, are overly defensive or aggressive with the people you believe, believe you are crazy.

    I intentionally sent messages similar to Bisesar’s (saying I was going to be the first woman to successfully sue the CIA, etc) to an ex who’s behaviour towards me had had a huge part in me failing out of my final year at McGill… he sent them to the Ottawa cops, who arrested me for harassment, even though this guy had been, arguably, sexually exploitive & emotionally abusive– in my perception, using my low self-esteem to get me to write his papers and give him hundreds of blowjobs.

    I wanted to win. I wanted to kill him with kindness. He is making over a 100K/year now as a civil servant in Ottawa and I am now the age he was when I met him (almost 31), and I am not the biology teacher or science journalist I hoped I would become when I was at McGill.

    I think my exaggerated/mocking mental illness effectively scared him out of exploiting any more young women, but it cost me some the best years of my life, or at least those with the greatest potential to form long-lasting social relationships, travel, look young and pretty, reach my athletic potential, etc.

    But I had so many spectacular years in Whistler (including being on the BC half-pipe snowboard team), living the freedom of the mountain life of skiing and snowboarding (minus the many broken bones and concussions), it probably balanced out, and it will all feel worth it if I can help reshape the stereotypes of journalists, lawyers, judges, who rarely have a solid understanding of molecular biology, particularly at the neurological level.

    I just want to help people understand that you can organically experience symptoms equivalent to those caused by consuming magic mushrooms or weed, and those symptoms can go away on their own, generally with feelings of happiness, self-confidence and human connection.

    A former friend at McGill, Wanda Marini, now a doctor, was pulled into a alleyway by a masked man who attempted to rape her in 2009 and they never found a suspect. (I have emails from Montreal police confirming this, and she is open about her experience and the trauma, posting picture of her black eyes on Facebook)… My paranoia led me to worry that that guy from McGill might have been responsible, but in truth, he never would’ve had to put in that violent an effort to get laid… he proudly claims he’s bedded hundreds. He was, however, violent when I looked at his Facebook messages when he didn’t come home one night, and tried to throw me and all my stuff out of the apartment I’d rented.

    Anyways, biologically our survival instincts often display as psychotic, particularly in war settings– obscene torture in Abu Ghraib, the slaughter of 300,000 Iraqis and the sacrifice of 6000 Americans for… “freedom.” I had a friend who died in Iraq in 2005 (I graduated high school in Minnesota just as locals my age were deployed) who readily admitted he’d killed innocent people. Those folks walk around with that guilt and an awareness they are capable of murder without anyone around them acknowleding it… “Thankyou for your service” is rarely associated with, “you are capable of taking human life and we have faith you won’t do it on home turf.”

  26. if I was on medication for something that would literally make me better from doing something harmful I would take those side effects. I take antibiotic when necessary that make me nauseous and etc. and I deal with it because it will make me better. I know people who take medication for their heart and have side effects too… they don’t stop taking their medication… they have it adjusted or try a new medication or they just deal with it because in the long run its HELPING them.

    if she didn’t have the proper dosage and it was making her foggy, etc, then go to the fucking Doctor and have it adjusted or have them prescribe a medication better fit for her – HOWEVER she CHOSE to not go that route and to just stop taking the medication resulting in serious consequences that she should be tried as criminally responsible.

    give your own head a shake.

  27. Right. This is coming from someone who takes antibiotics and is not making reference to taking medication for a brain disorder that severely alters your brain receptors.

    I take medication for Epilepsy. I can seriously say that any medication with severe side effects due to the incorrect dosage can wreak serious havoc. ESPECIALLY if the medication is for your brain.

    Please….antiobiotics. you can’t even compare that to anti-psychotic drugs.

  28. 1) soem antibiotics have very serious side effects, and can alter the way you think.

    2) I agreed that a wrong dosage “can wreak serious havoc”…..

    HOWEVER, my point is that she didn’t have the medication adjusted or didn’t try another medication even though her family tried to get her to. she just decided to stop taking the medication all together – which was her choice. she CHOSE to stop taking a medication and or to not seek another kind of medication/dosage…. she made that choice. she was diagnosed, given medication to help, she was well aware of her condition, and instead she decided to ignore all of that. it would be completely different if she wasn’t diagnosed if she wasn’t aware of her schizophrenia, but she was and is fully aware and is responsible for her choice to not take medication or seek new medication and or a different dosage aND is responsible for the consequences of those actions.

  29. Thanks for sharing. Have you considered a writing career? Don’t sell yourself short. You can accomplish anything if you believe in yourself.

  30. Nobody is saying she shouldn’t be held liable. I completely agree with you.

    But to understand how mental illness really affects someone, namely someone with schizophrenia, who may or may not be defiant or reluctant to take their medication, I’d like to see you try to convince someone who is mentally ill, specifically with schizophrenia to take their medication (or in her case see a doctor to get on the right dosage) and I’ll show you a schizophrenic who’s voices in their head will most likey be more convincing and more tormenting that you can’t help but silence them. For all we know, the voices in her head could have convinced her that she wasn’t even sick enough.

    Mental illness is extremely complicated.

    Nobody is disagreeing she needs to be appropriately reprimanded for the crime she committed, but unless you’ve taken the time to understand how a mentally ill persons brain tends to behave, then how are you at liberty to even judge?

    Whether it be in a mental institution or jail, the judge (jury?) will decide based on all the facts brought to court.

    In the end she won’t get away with what she did.

    However as for us? So many of us will continue to stigmatize mental illness and people like Rohinie will continue to slip through the cracks.

  31. She is ILL . What about that dont you understand? Frankly you sound a bit off your meds too.

  32. The people around her DID UNDERSTAND her mental illness.
    This is my point.
    Not even they could help her. She isolated herself from them.
    You cannot hold someone against their will any more than they did in previous situations.
    Which happened!!

    She is a danger to herself and society. She should not ever be allowed on the streets again.
    This is not a rehabilitative illness people

    Is it sad, of course. But she must be held ACCOUNTABLE !!

    We’re talking about different things here. You cannot deny accountability.

    I for one would not want to work with her or run into her in a coffee shop. Rehabilitated or not. Didn’t work the last time.

  33. You’re right. Let’s absolve her entirely of all accountability. She’s sick. That makes it ok.

    Oh and that’s for your professional medical opinion too!

    Better check my medication.

  34. I completely agree with you on the topic of mental illness. My point is that

    1. YES more should be done to help and understand the mentally ill so that this type of violence doesn’t happen again.

    2. For those like this woman, who cannot be trusted to care for herself, accountability, punishment and severe monitoring must occur.
    You cannot rehabilitate her because to do this would imply she could process rational thoughts to begin with.
    Which will go away as soon as she feels better and starts skipping her medication

    How do you treat this type of illness without serious monitoring and constant intervention all while giving the same rights as any person who does not suffer from illness?

    She is not and will not ever be of sound mind

    And by the way, I don’t appreciate the bullying on here.
    I have a right to my opinion and with all due respect, I know this story much better than any of you.

  35. Then you go back to your doctor and re adjust. You don’t just stop taking them.

    Give YOUR head a shake.

  36. You better check your medication because you are hearing voices and those voices dont belong to me. I never said anything that you are suggesting I did. Bye.

  37. I wonder how deeply the stigma of mental illness has affected our society? People don’t know of symptoms, don’t speak of the symptoms, and are afraid of the optics of having to take meds. Prolonged, degenerate cases of illness like this one end up horribly. Reading this story, I feel like we are in pre-microscope times where people thought you could cure a bacterial infection with spells (now, we think we can stave off mental illness by simply “sucking it up”).

  38. Please don’t comment on mental illness if you do not understand it. Almost all schizophrenics believe they are fine and that the world around them is not right. The delusions and hallucinations in their minds can be more real than what they see with their eyes or hear with their ears. They don’t even really have a choice to make regarding medication since schizophrenia affects the brain’s ability to think rationally and make rational decisions. In the words of one comedian, “Crazy people don’t know they’re crazy–that’s what makes them crazy. If they knew they were thinking insane thoughts, they could correct themselves, and there would not be a problem.” Bisesar thought she was fine and didn’t agree with her diagnosis. Furthermore, antipsychotic meds do little more than put you to sleep.

  39. Wow. Great article!
    Mental health is a HUGE issue in today’s society. Unfortunately, some parents,especially immigrant parents, who come from places where it’s taboo to talk about mental health issues, tend to carry that baggage and choose not to discuss issues they or their child(ren) may have, and that alone is a big problem. Aside from that, in today’s society, we are all forced to preform better and faster than our past generations. I’ve NEVER in my life come across SO many people who are stressed, beyond stressed, depressed, severely depressed, anxious and suffer from panic attacks. Expectations are completely unrealistic, our attention span is almost non-existent and we want things done yesterday.

    All those issues act as extra fuel to an already burning fire- for those who suffer from a mental illness.

  40. You don’t like Bisesar. I get that. I don’t necessarily like her either. But you don’t understand how schizophrenia works. From following this story, I know most people in her life didn’t seem to know she was sick. She didn’t know she was sick. Telling her that she has schizophrenia doesn’t mean much, since it doesn’t register. I’m going to write another comment trying to explain this in more depth and hope you can understand and find some compassion for how serious this disease can be.

  41. agree. This is what I gathered from the article as well. She obviously thought very highly of herself and her abilities, an opinion that was not shared by the employers that dismissed her.

  42. Then if you know this story so well, and if you know her so well – why didn’t you try to help her?

    I’m not claiming I know her, but I can definitely say that you seem to be the only one on here that doesn’t fully grasp what schizophrenia does to a person and you don’t agree that she should be rehabilitated!

    If this was YOU, and you suffered from schizophrenia and you went and murdered someone – wouldn’t you want to be rehabilitated to? You’d be potentially incarcerated yes, but wouldn’t you deserve the human right to recieve medical help?

    Nobody is bullying you. We just aren’t agreeing with you and you aren’t agreeing with us. That’s not bullying.

  43. I’ve been looking for an elegant analogy, and I think you nailed it. Most people still struggle with the idea that we are all essentially bags of chemicals held together by skin and bones. Most people don’t realize that their ability to speak or remember their name, even their belief in God can be turned off by applying strong magnetic pulses to specific parts of their brain. Most people think they have “character” and “free will”, but, as research is showing, we are all slaves to our biochemistry. Unfortunately, these ideas are much harder to explain, let alone demonstrate scientifically than, say, a bacterial infection. For one, physical ailments like heart disease show up under a microscope and on MRI scans. Insanity does not.

  44. Maybe there is a mental health check up that one day in the future we would all do, like physicals once a year. Perhaps there is a combination of things–thinning parts of the brain, low dopamine receptor counts, low levels of serotonins given certain stimuli, and family history etc. that give a profile of impending mental illness. People would know their vulnerabilities to things like stress, street drugs etc. and at least try not to exacerbate their situation; they would know what treatments are available and signs of when to take them. On a society-wide level, maybe we’d even be able to determine the % of people at risk, and resources that need to go into treatment centres or elimination of things that worsen vulnerable cases: like poverty, bullying, neo-liberal economics etc. :)

  45. You have to ask yourself: Should a 5 year old kid be tried for first degree murder as an adult, and why? If you don’t think they should, and if your reason is that they don’t know what murder is and understand that it is wrong, then you have to conceive that some mentally ill people are no different than children in this regard. The latest research on Schizophrenia, for one, reveals that in those afflicted the immune system gradually destroys the brain, and with it faculties like the ability to distinguish right from wrong. It’s up to the Crown to prove that Bisesar actually committed the crime, but up to her defense to prove that Bisesar did not understand that it was a crime (which is very difficult and happens rarely). In our legal system, the whole idea behind “not criminally responsible” is that the court believes the person committed the crime, but that they didn’t have the mental capacity to comprehend their actions. It doesn’t mean they get off easy. They get locked up in a mental institution where they can be treated by professionals instead of a jail, where they would most likely get worse and suffer at the hands of other inmates.

  46. Yes, we are beginning to put the brain under various scanners to see how it works. We are beginning to learn that two people with identical symptoms, such as severe depression, can have very different physiological causes (for example: low serotonin in one, over-active brain regions in the other). We know that schizophrenia is genetic. But, the big mystery is that even in genetically identical twins, when one develops schizophrenia, there is only about 50% chance that the other one will as well. This means that mental illness is not all genetics. It’s much more complex than that. On the other hand, the problem when it comes to testing is that it’s been shown that everyone is really bad when it comes to self-assessing the mind. Perhaps, in time we will invent reliable methods of testing for mental disorders. There are many challenges, but there are many brilliant minds at work solving these problems.

  47. So..if Rohinie was a 5’2 250lb female that looked like Oprah’s sister….would we have this wonderful story with pictures from a more kinder, gentler period in her life?

  48. Sympathizing with a murderer because they are schizophrenic stigmatizes mental illness.

  49. Mental illness is not fully understood by anyone, not even doctors, so you can’t sit there and say that you understand it and are free to make your comments.

    there are several people who have schizophrenia who don’t go out and murder people – the fact that she stabbed and killed someone and the only thing being discussed is “poor girl it’s because she has schizophrenia” creates a stigma for schizophrenia aND mental illness. People start to fear and associate schizophrenia with murder.

    She is responsible for her actions.

    Just because Rhoinie may have had voices telling her to stab a random woman doesn’t mean those voices aren’t who she is nor that she shouldn’t be tried like an adult or responsible for her actions.

  50. If found NCR, and sent to a forensic psychiatric hospital, there is no guarantee that they will be able to manage her illness, and as a result she may never get out.

    However, if she is sentenced criminally she will probably be sentenced to a specific time, serve the time and receive no treatment. Once she is out the medical and corrections system will have no ability to enforce treatment, or track her health.

    There is a significant misconception that people that are determined to be NCR will be released earlier than someone that is convicted criminally. That is not true. In fact, people that are found NCR often spend even longer in institutional care than those that are sent to jail for similar offences. NCR is not the free ride it is portrayed as.

  51. I don’t mean it as harsh as you took it. what I mean is that sympathizing with a murderer just because they have schizophrenia creates an association between the two. thus, creating a stereotype (stigma).

    I sympathize with people who suffer from mental illness, however I don’t sympathize with murderers. It would be an insult to those who suffer from schizophrenia to be compared to Rhoinie and her actions.

  52. But what you don’t seem to grasp is that she is someone with schizophrenia FIRST.
    She wasn’t a murderer who developed schizophrenia.

    That is not stigmatizing the illness. It’s bringing to light that you cannot just throw someone in jail to serve a sentence (life or other) who has mental illness and not allow them their human right to health care. Everyone has that right.

    BY NOT offering her mental health rehabilitation services while incarcerated – THAT is further stigmatizing mental illness.

  53. First of all, RIP Rosemarie. What a tragedy for everyone, especially her husband. I do echo everyone’s sentiments about the need to de-stigmatize mental health issues. Like physical health, EVERYONE shifts in our level of mental health. In highly educated and professional fields, this is an extremely taboo topic. People brave enough to seek help or speak openly are labelled as weak and unfocused. No wonder Rohinie Bisesar was in such denial for so long. I am a PhD-level health researcher working with PhD level minds – yet even people in my field are not able to be open about their mental health with the same fear. Now, if you can’t speak about it in healthcare, where can you? Humans are complex beings. Please stop labeling and dismissing others so easily.

  54. Agreed – except I think it is more due to the reactionary, not preventative, nature of our medical and legal system. We shouldn’t aim to lock people up when things get bad. We should aim to prevent and support people so it doesn’t get bad. There’s more that could have been done to prevent such escalation on the individual level, but our society has to support it.

  55. what you don’t seem to GRASP is not once have I said she shouldn’t get the health care she needs, all I said was that she should be tried as any other adult for the crime she committed and does not deserve sympathy just because she is schizophrenic. She should be put in jail the same as any other murderer -and also provided the health care she needs.

    Not once did I say she didn’t deserve healthcare. My point is that she doesn’t deserve any sympathy for her actions.

  56. And you think JAIL will provide the proper rehabilitation she needs? Their rehabilitation programs are as petty as it gets. If they were as medically focused as those let’s say at CAMH, or another mental facility, I probably wouldn’t blink an eye.

    You do realize that either way she’ll be put away for a long time right? Whether it’s in jail or a mental facility?

  57. You did not have to take it there. I’m sure she meant there are limited resources and connections in comparison to downtown Toronto which is true. You don’t have to be so condescending

  58. “Nobody makes it outta here”. I guess she’s right. I’m still in Scarbs. There are plenty of ‘nobodies’ downtown too. In fact, it could be worse with all the temptations. All the resource you need is your head, keep your nose clean aka be a nerd, FOCUS (block all the other crap out) and again, normal parents who care. That is in short supply for many. I know.
    Depending on the type of friend one tends to make, that will definitely limit your connections. But if you befriend that nerd, they are the ones that end up getting salary jobs, and able to really help out later on with a referral to get a interview. Also, tons and tons of Sri Lankens came in the 90s. All cramped in rentals, dressed like bums, drove old used cars. Look at them now. In one generation, a lot of them have million dollar homes in markham, driving new cars, children going to University.

  59. Doctors don’t adjust. They dont’ care. They just hand them out like candy, and are done with.

  60. I have worked in a pharmacy for more than 10 years and had a mother with several mental health issues. Schizophrenia is not an incurable, lifelong disease. That is what the pharmaceutical industry would like us to believe. It would also like us to believe cancer is incurable. However if you look at the work Andrew Saul has done in providing mega doses (i.e. orthomolecular medicine) of certain types of nutrition to treat and reverse mental illness, you may change your mind. (Cue ensuing counter-argument: he was not a doctor. Rebuttal: perhaps that is precisely what enabled his mind to be open and free thinking to other modalities of treatment, namely nutrition.) There is no money in curing sickness, but all kinds in maintaining it. There is also money to be made in identifying those who are “in danger of imminently harming themselves or others” and confining them to psych wards as you suggest is a good method to control humans who have free will.

    When the criteria for diagnosis of a pseudo-disease (for there are no official blood tests/ markers which unambiguously confirm schizophrenia/ depression/ bi-polar) is left in the hands of Big Pharma and their lobbyists, the ensuing treatment protocols must be examined as having enormous bias and conflict of interest. I do not ignore the need for a very small subset of the population to be monitored, and to take the mind-numbing antipsychotics which render their innate free will controllable if not for the safety of themselves. But your rhetoric becomes all to common in a day and age when apparently mental health cannot be cured, and it can, when enough of the right factors are in place, including examining the family upbringing as this article made so very clear was a likely cause of imbalance in Rohinie’s case (and likely most other cases).

  61. Also not to be ignored is the black box warning label that come on most of the chemicals prescribed for treatment of mental illness, cautioning patients that taking them (and indeed stopping them suddenly) can lead to random, violent acts of aggression and/ or suicide. This is a problem vastly overlooked in society, never mentioned throughout the course of examining motives behind people’s actions, when indeed they are often first cause. We should ask ourselves why there is this communication gap, why is it ignored, and why we are not looking at nutrition instead (or very short term chemical usage, and a safe dosing down) as a means to cure/ treat mental illness, and in fact all other illness in a society which does not value the importance of food. Baby formula anyone.

  62. But, I do understand mental illness, and I am free to make my comments. Just because I, or doctors don’t know everything about mental illness, it doesn’t mean that what we do know doesn’t count and that everyone’s opinion is equally valuable. Some people know a lot, and your comment disrespects those who work very hard to further our understanding of brain disorders.

    That’s the real stigma of mental illness. These disorders are very complex and manifest uniquely in every individual, but those who suffer get put in categories like “crazy”, “guilty”, “depressed”, “unfocused” or “unproductive.”. So, all I’m saying is not so fast, she’s not necessarily responsible for the crime. It really depends on her state of mind now and at the time of the crime. She will be tried as an adult, and it will be the courts that decide whether she was aware of what she was doing and mentally capable of understanding that it was a crime. It will not be you.

    She’s not a poor girl because she has schizophrenia. More than her, I pity everyone who ever cared about her. She put those people through hell even before she destroyed a family and ended up on the news. Yes, very few schizophrenics are violent. But those who are make front page news, fuel strong opinions, and stir discussions such as the one we’re having.

  63. I do understand mental illness, I studied it, I’ve seen it, I have a sister who suffers from bipolar. You are making the judgement based on my opinion that I do not understand mental disorder, but I do, I don’t understand every single aspect – no, again, no one does.

    My opinion is no more right or wrong than yours, I do not need you to preach to me.

    I stay strong with believing that regardless of the fact she has schizophrenia, she should be tried as any other adult. unfortunately she may of not been in her right state of mind, but it doesn’t mean shes not responsible for the crime she committed.

    Thats my opinion, I’m in titled to it as you are yours.

  64. Interesting article. I wanted to know more details at the time the murder happened. Mental illness “needs to be addressed more with support”, at least one person states, but as humans we like to think there is an answer to every problem, which sometimes there is not. With any amount of support, some people will refuse help, not get help, or be in some imaginable circumstance. The upbringing disaster is obvious – but what can be done about that? I want to add a 3rd point. I lived through a partner getting an MBA during which she was programmed to “be a leader”, to leave parties if she found in 5 minutes that no one there could advance her career. There appears to be a mantra in MBA that “working your way up from the bottom” is an unacceptably slow way to get where you want to be career wise. For me, I also see the MBA as assisting in the road to where she went.

  65. I wonder if she is not a victim of genetic heritage and early life experience. Guyana has the highest incidence of schizophrenia in the world. She grew up in a very challenging environment. Paranoid schizophrenia might well fit with her life pattern. The intense onset of symptoms around the age of hormonal change night account for the rapid descent from promising to dangerous.

    I am the pirate.

  66. It is not easy wisely to comment on any news articles which already have many questions about the particular situations. We do not know about Rohinie Biseasar and her family back history in Canada. When did she start to get troubles? Did any relations with her trouble and her family circumstances? There are many questions still unsolved. I cannot give any comments without knowing her details. I hope court process will give direction to discover everything about Rohinie. I read almost all news related to her incident. What she claimed like ‘mind control victim’! I am a victim in the mind control and human experimentation (MKULTRA). Please read my blog to know about the behind story of mind control victim. Here is my blog link#

  67. For a 40 yr old, she is very attractive. With history of academic achievements, one look at her and you would think she had a wonderful life.

  68. That may be what you call goals. I’m trying to provide that salary you oh so wish to attain. But I was referring to what you said I know exactly what you meant but you were disrespectful stating it

  69. I think you heavily interviewed her ex and there were lots of implications of her wrong from his side. I don’t know why it is so one-sided. But obviously, the writer of the article has no sympathy for Rohinie.

  70. Please take this interview with an entire shaker full of salt.

    You probably don’t know ex boyfriend “Geoffrey”. There is quite a bit of misinformation here.
    “Geoff” should feel pretty terrible about what is being left out.

    She needed a positive helpful presence.
    Instead, those who were supposed to care about, her were reinforcing her insecurities by dismissing her obvious need for help.
    Her sickness was chalked up to her being “sweet, but odd”.

    She wasn’t odd. She was sick. No one around her cared to pay attention to that.

  71. This disease is dangerous and it is unfair to the rest of society to not get treatment for people suffering from it as early as possible. Often the individual doesn’t believe he or she is ill and refuses medication. I think it is a much bigger problem than most people realize, my husband Dominic Parker was randomly stabbed and killed in 2013 in an incident that is almost the same as what happened to Rosemarie Junor, unfortunately these are not isolated cases and it is imperative we have changes in policy regarding the treatment of the mentally ill both for their own safety and public safety.

  72. “There is likely much we don’t know. ”

    I don’t understand why you don’t just stop there. Why assume/imply that her father assaulted her in any way?

  73. Thanks for sharing. But honestly, I wouldn’t have ever spoken to you again if you’d gone on my Facebook and been reading my messages. I hope you can take that in the right way …

  74. Since you mention magnetic pulses … Glossary of neurowarfare terms and concepts (lots on electronic harassment, gang stalking, etc.). Critical feedback welcome.

    The pulses do not need to be strong. It’s about the frequency of the waves. Much literature shows that a WEAK pulse(amount of energy per cm2) is plenty sufficient.

  75. Or … they could use that “checkup” to scan our brains and perfectly attune existing techs to brainwash and control everyone.

    I think there is some merit to the idea. But there would have to be very strong protections against abuse.

  76. I don’t know if you missed part of that… he hadn’t come home for two days & we shared a place together… turned out he was hooking up with someone else… I wasn’t even mad he was cheating… he went psycho on me… tried to beat the shit out of my while I laid in fetal position… he also got me do his homework (and other girls did too)… & used the fact he thought he was cool and I thought I wasn’t to get me to give him probably close to a hundred blowjobs in less than four months.

  77. aka I only checked his facebook because he hadn’t come home. I don’t understand why guys think they can use girls for sex & cheat all the time without consequences. he also deleted my entire facebook account with nearly 2000 friends, hundreds of thousands of pictures and videos, and important contacts I no longer have access too…. cops didn’t seem to care about any of that though… not enough evidence he beat me and closed my facebook account… plenty of evidence I “harassed him”… we need more female cops & high paid female athletes… it’s a joke… oh and the officer who arrested me got a semi-boner… see how that makes you feel… or get pulled over by cop after cop who look like they just want to mount you. there are literally women having their (search Ottawa Carleton Detention Centre) babies on the floors of jail cells in Ontario… there are hundred of sexually abused who had no place to put their anger when the dudes in their life do nothing to protect them from other sexually addicted dudes… jail is shitty for guys… but they ain’t being sent their pregnant for crimes related to the fact they weren’t big enough or strong enough to fight off the dudes in their life who use their pain & hope for real love to use them.

  78. aka I only checked his facebook because he hadn’t come home. I don’t understand why guys think they can use girls for sex & cheat all the time without consequences. he also deleted my entire facebook account with nearly 2000 friends, hundreds of thousands of pictures and videos, and important contacts I no longer have access too…. cops didn’t seem to care about any of that though… not enough evidence he beat me and closed my facebook account… plenty of evidence I “harassed him”… we need more female cops & high paid female athletes… it’s a joke… oh and the officer who arrested me got a semi-boner… see how that makes you feel… or get pulled over by cop after cop who look like they just want to mount you. there are literally women having their (search Ottawa Carleton Detention Centre) babies on the floors of jail cells in Ontario… there are hundred of sexually abused who had no place to put their anger when the dudes in their life do nothing to protect them from other sexually addicted dudes… jail is shitty for guys… but they ain’t being sent their pregnant for crimes related to the fact they weren’t big enough or strong enough to fight off the dudes in their life who use their pain & hope for real love to use them.

  79. I don’t know if you missed part of that… he hadn’t come home for two days & we shared a place together… turned out he was hooking up with someone else… I wasn’t even mad he was cheating… he went psycho on me… tried to beat the shit out of my while I laid in fetal position… he also got me do his homework (and other girls did too)… & used the fact he thought he was cool and I thought I wasn’t to get me to give him probably close to a hundred blowjobs in less than four months.

  80. He’s definitely more in the wrong because it’s NEVER OK to do that. Sounds like an all round jerk.

    But as a guy that can be trusted, I wouldn’t stay more than 5 seconds with someone who reads my private mail.

  81. You could have called him.

    I’m not going to get into victim blaming. It seems like you really got the raw end of the stick in that deal. I hope you never allow yourself to tolerate such treatment for any amount of time again. But if you meet a nice guy and he comes home after a weekend bender with some friends to find you logged into his private accounts and reading his mail, that it would be over.

  82. I wouldnt stay five seconds with a loser like you then. My friends/family check my email facebook all the time I haven’t beaten any of them up for it. If you were having a BBQ w/ a dude at the place you. As if I don’t know the consequences of it– I failed out of McGill and have hated sex ever since & lost a good chunk of my 20s. I was pretty friendly athletic and nice. That shouldnt have happened to me or the other girls he made feel like trash. His consequences were getting a degree cuz girls like me did his homework, loads of sex and BJs cuz he manipulates young women (& at the time lied about his age to get into frosh week etc.. he was in his early 30s pretending to be in his early 20s). Oh and one other consequence— I tried to fuck with his head to mock the fact he thinks he is god’s gift to women five years later when he tried to date me again but it was clear he was still a cheating, lying jerk who made everyone around him think he is a nice guy. He admits he has mental health issues but if you keep using that as a crutch for your sex addiction you better believe a bitch like me is going to make inconvenient for you. You wouldnt stay five minutes with someone who checked your facebook when you disappear not for a bender but to go bang another chick youre using to help you get through a second undergrad. I really hope you wouldnt. She deserves better than someone like you. I hope when you have a daughter you stick up for her. My dad did nothing to help protect me from this abuser. He judged me too. My brother always has my back but he lives in Spain. He listened to all his buddies in high school talk about how they wanted to bang me or take my virginity & he always set them straight. My dad is a wimp. His mom was a better hockey player than him. My brother sucked at hockey but he would always defend me against guys even if they were twice his size. Guys like you think that everyone except their sisters & daughters are on Earth to suck penis. I hope when your daughter is paying rent on a place, has a BBQ with her douchey BF & he leaves in the middle of the party & goes missing for two days in a part of Montreal where there are many alleyway muggings & rapes, then he comes home from banging another girl to try and beat her and kick her out of the apartment she paid for only for you to say “I know you were worried darling but yoy shouldnt have checked his facebook you should’ve waited like the dick sucking paper-writing domestic puppet you are meant to be as a girl with a big bum and big boobs big heart and a vagina. Because dudes can do whatever they want and you cant do shit. Oh & dont bother trying to warn girls about him years later cuz you will get arrested for it and he will be off the hook.” Thank god none of buddies on the west coast think like you. P.S i obviously called him. I hope your future daughter or wife goes missing for two days and you dont check her facebook or put in a police report only to find out she wasnt on a bender with her buddies she was kidnapped & forced into the sex trade. Good thing you didnt check facebook. Wouldnt want to find out abojt how much she thoughtshe loved the guy that beat her and dumped a pot of boiling water on her. police suck.

  83. Which is why I NEVER checked his facebook before he went missing for two days when we were living together. I wish I had. I wouldnt have moved in with him which means I probably wouldnt have failed out of mcgill & got super depressed & would be 10 years into a great life & career right now. If I only I had checked it sooner. If only I had seen how many girls on the go & been able to warn others about his sex addiction.

  84. Read the book (see below) by missing Toronto girl father, who describes how in some Canadian prisons “brainwashing” and other methods of coercive persuasion are being practiced (including brain chip implantation without the knowledge of the targeted ind.). Remember that Dr. Cameron, Hebb and other workers of CIA sponsored MKULTRA program have been doing their memory erasure and other experiments not so long ago in Canada. (see the book here:

  85. Did you read the article? Or are you just having fun mocking commenters and their reactions to the aftermath of another Tiger Parenting horror story?

  86. I’m expressing my opinion. My opinion is that we shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions about things we simply don’t have a clue about.

    Am I allowed to express that opinion? Am I committing a thought crime?

  87. It’s clear that you have reading comprehension issues as you give no weight to the fact her parents were intent on controlling her as if she were still a toddler. Having a witch doctor baste her naked body in chickens blood while her father watched must not have impacted your limited POV too much/not at all.

  88. Maybe you should check your own reading comprehension. At which point did it say “and therefore we know her father assaulted her”.

    Like, yeah, that’s gross and weird. But so is a lot of cultural stuff. Is it any stranger than eating pigs blood as a holiday food?

    You’re jumping to conclusions.

  89. I wrote: “She may well have suppressed the memory of much trauma inflicted on her by her father.”
    How does that become ” At which point did it say “and therefore we know her father assaulted her”.” ?

    Your reading comprehension is sub par. Maybe you should have your implanted chip power washed or maybe give it a nice wax job and spit polish and you’ll be right as acid rain.

  90. OK. I was reading quickly and missed that part. But you’re being insulting for no good reason. This is the sort of crap that’s driving people apart. Please don’t be a part of that. Nothing good can possibly come of it.

    I can recommend a good resource on the technologies and strategies involved in some of the crap going on. If you want. And it doesn’t talk about brain chips, even though they are possible and there IS evidence that there was experimentation that used them.

  91. That’s very broad minded of you. You’re right about the dangers of people drifting apart instead of promoting community and harmony.

  92. The fact that one may be “diagnosed” with mental illness — by the public or by one’s lawyer — before the real psychiatric evaluation in Canada (and in the US) is well known tendency. But the fact that nobody even considers her claims about having brain chipped or behaviorally manipulated in the country, where Dr. Cameron, Hebb, Delgado and MKULTRA activists not so long ago were experimenting with mind control and the possibility of production of “Manchurian candidate” (see John Marks’ relevant book), shows that the good portion of the public in there is well-brainwashed by the corporational media or that governmental covert propagandists do a good job in manipulating social media sites by leaving the impression there is no problem of systematic abuse of the psychiatry in the country. Try to look at the book for some perspective (“Federal Shadows in the Canadian Prisons”:

  93. I don’t deny that her parents apper to be a old school, or backwards, but all we know from the article is that Rohinie told her boyfriend the story about the chicken blood, and he shared it with Toronto Life. I can tell you that in a case like this, the family gets a gag order from the court, and are not allowed to speak to the press, or defend themselves. We don’t know if maybe at that point, the family tried everything to control their rebellious child, and maybe the parents tried to control her in the first place because she was a bit out there since she was young. We don’t know the full story. I will tell you this much: it takes more than abuse to develop schizophrenia, and that the schizophrenics I know or knew were weird people even before they developed any symptoms.

  94. Andrea, I’m a late bloomer. There are things in my past that held me back by a decade. But, my change happened when I decided that I wouldn’t let the past, or the lost time stop me. At some point, you cannot keep blaming the past, or the people in your past. What matters to me the most right now is not how badly I crash, but how resilient I am at getting back up, over and over again, and how actively and fiercely I face my demons.

  95. I think this article is rather balanced. The reason her ex is all over the story is because she had no friends, and she was estranged from her family. There doesn’t seem to be anyone else who knew much about her life in recent years, except the boyfriend.

  96. Please define what you mean by “positive and helpful presence.” Following this story, it’s rather apparent to me that it’s not that “Geoff” and the few other friends she had left didn’t care, it’s that she hid herself rather well. She got an elderly university professor to pay her bills and buy her food regularly, and as late as November, she was even discussing business deals with an entrepreneur she met at a business conference earlier in 2015. It’s not easy to tell someone has mental health issues, especially if they wear a suit, sound confident, and you meet them for an hour every once in a while. On the other hand, those who figured out that there was something wrong could not get her to accept that she was sick, and could not force her to accept any kind of treatment. Even in court, she fired her lawyer for filing a court-mandated mental health report rather than obeying her and believing that she is being mind controlled using a high tech implant. Have you ever had a conversation with a full blown schizophrenic? To be a positive and helpful presence to a schizophrenic with an A-Type personality like Rohinie means that you have to let them lead you. And if you criticize or speak against what they already decided is true, you become the enemy, and get promptly ejected from their life. If you accept their leadership, they will most likely ruin you financially and psychologically. “Geoff” seems like a guy who held on as long as he could.

  97. There are other ways to research and know one’s life. To be honest, her boyfriend didn’t have a job and she was the sole breadwinner. And also when she had doubts or troubles at work, all he seemed to care was to shut her down and implied that her view was not valid. I could see that he was only caring about keeping her job. And the writer only cared how to write an implied piece of “journalism” suggesting her insanity.

  98. No, you’re right. The parents only did what they thought was best. That’s why Rohinie turned out to be such a credit to her family.
    Note to would be Tiger Parents: Make sure you don’t forget to have access to your adult child’s bank account and do Not give them a key to the house so they can spend the night in a coffee shop where they can look forward to the next episode of Witch Doctor Naked Blood Bath.

  99. trust me the dozens of broken bones & concussions had a bigger impact. i am happy with my life. there is a difference between blaming the past & taking time out of my day to share a story on a little-read comment thread that could help others, as well as trying to nip in the butt the fact that so many (attractive) guys think that their right to sex as many ladies as possible trumps a girl’s right to create a stable livelihood for her & her future children… unfortunately i learned the hard way youre better off trying to marry a pro athlete than become one… there’s alot we can do to change the way we perceive seemingly aggressive or competitive women. it wont change the orbit of Earth but it could alter the biology of future generations. it’s slim pickings out there for athletic females looking for guys whose physical accomplishments match their own. just look how many attractive women end up with fat bald men… mostly for the stability.

  100. Allow me to rephrase my comment. On one hand: What if the daughter was insane on some level since she was young, and the blood incident was a last ditch parental effort by poorly educated individuals to try and deal with a difficult child? Yes, it scarred her enough to tell about it years later, but we don’t know what she put her parents through to warrant that incident. The story told by the ex boyfriend to Toronto Life is second hand, and the stories he heard could have been, scratch that, WERE one sided and coloured by a woman with a well documented case of career anosognosia and obsession with her image. On the other hand: What if her parents are actually idiots who destroyed a young woman by trying to mold her and created all the conditions necessary for this spectacular outcome. However warped they may be, we will not hear their version of this account. After all, Rohinie has 3 siblings who seem to be doing alright.

  101. I thought this was about you never becoming the teacher or science journalist you wanted to be due to the abuse you suffered in university. I don’t know how it became about physical accomplishments and ending up with fat bald men. But, you’re happy, so I yield.

  102. Well, she is “insane.” She has schizophrenia. She was diagnosed with it in 2014. She went on a crazy rant in court about having mind controlling implants in her body. Her symptoms are fairly typical. The story here is that many people knew her, but nobody really knew her, because she had no friends outside of her boyfriend, and hid her problems rather well.

    You’re not being fair to the boyfriend. During their 5 years together, she was employed for only about a year. She was supposed to be the breadwinner, and if you choose that role in a relationship, keeping your job comes before your feelings about your job, especially after prolonged unemployment. When you’re a new employee, and you publicly call out your boss in front of his colleagues, and you can’t deal with your office mates in a sociable manner, you’re going to get fired.

    If I was her boyfriend in 2010, and knew how badly she was behaving at work, I would have told her that I would break up with her if she lost her job.

  103. I see. I think her boyfriend should make you as a role model. If he broke up with her earlier, she would be way better off.

  104. I totally agree with you. This interview is only a piece of gossip rag work disguised as thoughtful journalism.

  105. The fact you are attempting to mitigate on behalf of the parents speaks volumes about what your real agenda is. Everything that Geoffrey said to the interviewer rings true. Nothing was over the top or incongruous given the outcome. Unfortunately, now that population growth is out of control and religion,militarism and corporatism have infected the planet with mass psychosis and twisted value systems, we can expect many more Rohinies and their pig ignorant abusive parents.

  106. If that’s what you took from it that’s fine. I don’t know what you’re life experiences were like. Mine were far from the Toronto journalist’s status quo … backcountry adventures… sexually persistent men… dudes who climbed into my tent at night while treeplanting in rural areas hundreds of kilometres from… lots of friends who fistfight… lots of canoe trips, and mountain climbing and adventures far from the madding crowds… working for bars owned by organized crime operatives… being committed to a psych hospital because my experiences sounded unlikely and delusional when they were quite normal for my adventure seeking group of alpha peers… i only mentioned the mcgill stuff because i worked so hard in high school to create certain opportunities for myself in university… because a guys “privacy” & right to sex whoever he wants whenever he wants & his physical strength surpassing my own, the consequences of those events had a greater effect on my bank account than his, making it more difficult for me to put myself in a position to have a kids and raise them in a financially stable environment because I have a shorter reproductive shelf life than he does, which effects a lot of the behavioural urgencies in females… not to mention that a quarter of every month we want to rip out our uteruses because of the pain of menstruation… the status quo has been to accept that reproduction is unfortunately far more out of your control than casual sex seems to be… so the alpha females are reproducing as much as they could/should be… and our species inevitably becomes weaker.

  107. *oops … “hundreds of kilometres” (from police… not that i would ever call them when a discussion or confronting would due the trick)… my main point is that no one ever made in inconvenient for this guy to be an asshole… so i don’t know if i was legit losing my mind or pretending to be… just that in order to get from point A to point B it seemed like a reasonable strategy to convince him I was paranoid of the CIA, etc… everything about this guy made him think he was a sexbomb… he didn’t even ski or snowboard & he thought i was obsessively into him… like i would ever want to have kids with someone who hates the mountains.

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