So, what happened during the 2014 mayoral election’s first televised debate?
Last night’s CityNews mayoral debate was the first opportunity for 2014’s mayoral candidates to interact with one another on television. It was, in more ways than one, a mess. The format was a free-for-all, with short opening statements from each of the candidates followed by no-moderation shouting matches on general topics like “transit” and “leadership.” This way of doing things tended to reward loud voices and feigned indignation, which happen to be two of Rob Ford’s strengths. And so it’s not particularly surprising that most of the post-debate analysis has focused on how unexpectedly well he did, considering, you know, all the stuff. Nobody even mentioned crack until more than an hour in.
There were a few opportunities for pre-selected journalists to pose questions to the candidates of their choice, but by and large very little actual policy emerged from the fray. That much isn’t entirely CityNews’s fault: it’s still relatively early in the campaign and none of the candidates have finalized their platforms yet.
Even so, there were some good parts. Here are some of them:
“You’ve let the citizens of this city down. You’ve let the reputation of this city down. Maybe you’d like to address that. (Tory, to Ford)
“I don’t really need to take any lessons from you, because we’re not on the golf course right now.” (Chow, to Tory)
“How could you get away with all this crazy lying? Because there’s not truth.” (Chow, to Ford)
“John, you had your chance at the province and you fell flat on your face. You know it and I know it.” (Ford, referencing Tory’s time as leader of the Ontario PC party)
Most-derisive mentions of David Miller:
“I was proud to lead a group of councillors against the irresponsible spending of David Miller. In this election, voters will have a choice, and we need to make sure that we do not go back.” (Stintz)
“David Soknaki, you were part of Team Miller, as were you, Olivia. And we heard loud and clear in the last election that voters wanted change. They didn’t like those NDP spending practices.” (Stintz)
“David [Soknacki], everybody knows you were David Miller’s budget chief. You increased spending more than any budget chief ever has*.” (Ford)
*There’s no obvious basis for the assertion that D-Soks was a spendthrift during his time as budget chief. Spending hikes during his tenure were in line with what has happened under other budget chiefs since amalgamation.
Ways the candidates are just like you and me:
“Where I come from, we make 50 cents do a dollars’ worth of work.” (Soknacki)
“My family moved to Toronto when I was 13. My mother couldn’t find a job as a schoolteacher, so she worked in a hotel and then in a laundry department. We worked hard to make ends meet, so I know the value of the dollar.” (Chow)
“As a mom with two kids, and ten years on council, I’ve learned a lot about our city.” (Stintz)
Reasons Rob Ford doesn’t deserve to be reelected:
“Rob Ford wants to waste a billion dollars on his transit plan in Scarborough.” (Chow)
“Whatever he’s done in the past three years—and that’s a subject of great debate—he’s run out of gas. He’s not able to get anything through the city council anymore.” (Tory)
“He is really not a good role model for my grandchildren, or your kids.” (Chow)
Face Rob Ford makes when confronted with the fact that he hasn’t actually saved the city “a billion dollars” during his mayoralty:
Olivia Chow, with the CN Tower on her shirt.
Number of times Karen Stintz said the word “John” before successfully interrupting John Tory mid-sentence:
Time before Rob Ford was forced to explain his behaviour by saying “I’m not perfect”:
One hour and nine minutes, and only when asked about his crack scandal by a journalist on the debate’s expert panel.
9 thoughts on “So, what happened during the 2014 mayoral election’s first televised debate?”
Please please please please please don’t put me in a situation where the only way to stop Olivia Chow from nuking the city I love is to have Rob Ford re-elected.
If we had Ranked Ballot Voting, you could vote for every right-wing candidate you wanted, knowing that in the end, your vote would be counted for the most popular of your candidates, instead of being thrown in the trash if you don’t support the correct right-winger.
With the current first-past-the-post system, Olivia Chow could be the next mayor even if there were lots more right-wing voters overall, because their vote would be split by too many candidates.
See? RBV is not some left-wing conspiracy to cheat at elections. It’s a neutral system that eliminates strategic voting, far-left and far-right candidates, and wasted ballots. It ensures that your vote won’t be wasted — whether you’re left-wing, right-wing, or chicken wing.
Remember that when debate on Ranked Ballot Voting comes up.
Even in this format, which greatly favoured Rob Ford by allowing him to spout all the lies he could (5 factual lies in his first minute alone), Ford barely squeaked by Chow. Adding the CityTV instant viewer-poll scores:
108 Rob Ford
103 Olivia Chow
70 John Tory
9 Karen Stintz
8 David Soknacki
the fact that this clown Rofo is even still in the mayors chair is an indictment of the character of Toronto and the character (lack of) Ford himself.. elect this buffoon again and the world will mock us mercilessly.
Man, the first person I’ve read who has exactly identified the real issue.
Council should have approached the province as far back as last year for legislation to have such socially deranged persons barred from mayoral ballots.
Failing that, concerned Torontonians themselves should have mass petitioned the province for the same. It should never have even come to this shameful spectacle of a ‘debate’.
Ford Morgue Years.
It’s Rob Ford who will come up through the field, especially if the Chow-insulted Tory comes to the realization that he’s simply not going to win this and drops out. To whom shall his base turn? Yup.
The latest poll shows that 68% of Torontonians will never vote for Rob Ford under any circumstance. The best unicorns-and-rainbows scenario has Ford getting 32% of the vote, and another candidate will certainly get more than that—especially since Chow is the only left-wing voice. In 2010, almost 50% of Torontonians voted for a left-wing candidate. Ford’s 32% maximum cannot give him a win.
Well Rob, you can fool some of the people all of the time. No more years.
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