QUOTED: Adam Vaughan explains what raccoons have to do with his proposed bullet ban
There’s no rational reason to own a gun in the city. Gophers aren’t chewing up our fields, we have no black bears going through our garbage bins, and the raccoons aren’t dangerous enough.
—Councillor Adam Vaughan, on why a bylaw restricting the storage, sale and use of ammunition in Toronto makes perfect sense given the city’s lack of dangerous critters. However, gun control legislation tends to be contentious, and critics, including Rob Ford, are already saying such a ban would unfairly target hunters—and wouldn’t necessarily curb gun violence, since gang members will surely find a way to get ammunition. Vaughan doesn’t buy any of that, saying he’ll table his motion at the next council meeting, now that the recent plastic bag ban has the ban ball rolling. [National Post]
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There’s no rational reason to own a gun in the city. Gophers aren’t chewing up our fields, we have no black bears going through our garbage bins, and the raccoons aren’t dangerous enough.
—Councillor Adam Vaughan, on why a bylaw restricting the storage, sale and use of ammunition in Toronto makes perfect sense given the city’s lack of dangerous critters. However, gun control legislation tends to be contentious, and critics, including Rob Ford, are already saying such a ban would unfairly target hunters—and wouldn’t necessarily curb gun violence, since gang members will surely find a way to get ammunition. Vaughan doesn’t buy any of that, saying he’ll table his motion at the next council meeting, now that the recent plastic bag ban has the ban ball rolling. [National Post]){kind=link}
The mayor should be mayor or all Torontonans. Adam Vaughan is saying that Hunters are not welcome in Toronto. Adam Vaughan should never be mayor.
Raccoons ARE dangerous enough…and I wish I could shoot the raccoons terrorizing my neighborhood…they are a nuisance…they harbour disease and even their droppings harbour parasites that can harm humans…
Oh Adam…so naive…you don’t realize that most of the gun violence occurs with guns that were illegally obtained to begin with. Try banning that.
Glad I don’t live next to you, Jim! Hunters AREN’T welcome in Toronto!
Not that I’m for guns, but banning them will just force hunters, etc to enter the black market to get guns. Will make the undgerground / illegal means to obtain a gun worse as it will make the market for them bigger.
I need a gun to protect my property against nosy Star reporters who might peer over my backyard fence from the park on the other side. (sarcastic)
Actually, I think that only the police and armed forces should have handguns. As for long guns, they should be registered with the authorities so that in case they are stolen so they can be returned to the rightful owner. As for the ammo, only for those who have registered their firearms.
You’ll thank me later Benedict…once those rabies-infested bottom-feeders are off our streets once and for all.
Some people shoot as a hobby and never even hunt. Denying these people, who are licensed by the RCMP, the right to practice their skills and source ammunition from outside the city (and not even store it at home despite adhering to strict rules) is unfair and will solve nothing.
While I agree that banning bullets does nothing for gang violence, I can’t agree that it hurts hunters and hobby shooters. Do hunters hunt in the city NO so buy your ammo where you hunt. Do Hobbyists shoot in the City at any other place than a shooting range I hope not, so make it so only the ranges can sell ammo.
I don’t think it really matters either way, I doubt someone looking to commit a crime is walking into a mountain co op to buy bullets…
He Adam, trying explaining how these guns have anything to do with LEGAL licensed gun owners….
http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/1210875–high-powered-weapons-seized-in-raid-on-oakville-hom
As for a rational reason…there are hunters who live in the city, so just where should they leave their LEGAL guns and ammo when not in use? Leave them at the cottage without anyone around so someone can break in and steal them? There are people who collect guns, there are people who enjoy the sport of target shooting….just where do YOU think we should store our LEGAL weapons?
Stop going after law abiding citizens who have done nothing wrong and go after these dirt bag gang bangers and leave those of us that have been pushed around with all these new rules and strict guidelines for which we have been more than willing and accommodating on…LEAVE US alone. WE are not the problem. Gang members don’t and CAN`T walk into the local Canadian Tire and ask for ammo without the PROPER PERMIT. They are not getting their ammo or their guns by legal means, NOR are they getting these guns by stealing them from law abiding gun owning citizens…ENOUGH!
Here is one for the City of Toronto council. I am a legal long gun owner. I had to apply for a federal pocession and acquisition licence, pay a reistration fee, renew this licence every 5 years with a federal fee, have a professional sign an affidavit and verify my identity to apply for such licence and have a RCMP check done. When I purchase a long rifle the serial number is recorded in my name. I have my rifles registered with the federal government and have to carry such registration with me when I transport these rifles from my locked storage ( under 2 seperate locks in my home and they must not be stored in open view ( gun vault ) and bolted or secured to a wall in a permanent fashion. Now what more could one ask for ??
When transporting these long guns they must have trigger locks and be locked in a gun case, if I leave the vehicle to get a coffee the vehicle must be locked.
I as an outdoors person transport my long rifles from my residence in Toronto to the freedom of the wilderness country. I grew up in the country where rifles are a way of life we protect our familes from wild animals, hunt for food, recreational target practice.
When is enough enough rifles do not kill people, it is the idiot pulling the trigger. The same can happen with a knife, a frying pan or a base ball bat, need I continue. NO
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All this will do is increase black market price. A 300 dollar pistol in america is workth about 3000 here. Organized crime will just get richer. Adam Vaughn you are a moron.
He might as well ban gasoline. With all the hit and runs it should be a no brainer. And people should be forced to take mass transit anyways. (<—-Insert Sarcastic Voice Here).
Every self respecting person should consider moving out of Toronto as soon as possible. Leave it to the defenseless and the criminals.
Adam Vaughan was recently quoted in an interview as having never spent time outside of Toronto. There is Toronto and then the rest of Canada was more or less his statement. I can’t begin to explain how this is so wrong on so many levels. My idea, though, would be to ban Adam Vaughan from representing his ward or having anything to do with politics. Maybe ban him from speaking in public. HIS VIEWS are of no use in Toronto and potentially dangerous.
Vaughn’s proposal is not only illogical, it is dangerous. His idea would create store houses of firearms and ammunition in rural areas. These would be easy targets for thieves and organized crime. At the same time there is absolutely no data that indicates his proposed ban would make any difference to crime stats of Toronto. In fact the opposite is true, there are plenty of studies out there that show most gun laws are ineffective as crime control measures and at the very least allowing citizens to legally arm themselves does not increase crime. In short there is no simple correlation between firearms ownership and crime. So the very best outcome of his deluded proposed ban would be a very inconvenienced group of target shooters and hunters. At worst this ban would be making more firearms available to the real problem, criminals and organized crime. His world may end at Toronto’s city boundaries, but crime knows no boundaries.
Adam Vaughan knows very well this would have next to zero effect on Gangs. His real motivation is to make it look like he’s doing something and to take people’s attention away from the real causes of the problem which are;
1. A Police Services Board that thinks sensitivity to the feelings of minority groups trumps public safety.
2. A social system which funds single motherhood and thus helps to grow the number of teenage girls who become mothers of sons they eventully have no control over.